Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from August 9th to August 16th
Well, my fellow incubator contributors have kept me quite busy today. :) There are as many as 10 updates included in this edition of WIU! Here we go...
Congratulations to the this week's joint Leaders Extraordinaire - Team German-for-French and Team Catalan-for-Spanish!
The progress spread is remarkably skewed this week with these two teams doing the heavy lifting in taking the incubator average progress beyond the critical 1.00% threshold. The skew is also depicted by the median's drop to 0%
We have 5 teams in the 90s. Hatching of courses is imminent.
Two courses have just graduated from beta during the last week. Congratulations to team Norwegian and team Arabic for your hard work in achieving this awesome feat! Congratulations are also in order for the team Duolingo for their support, especially so to the Arabic team with their right-to-left writing system. Last but not the least, to the learning community who have helped these teams achieve success by sending their sentence reports and suggestions to help refine the course content.
As a side note, I would also like to remind the graduating teams to please notify me when they post any update in future. Each week, I look for updates only for Phase 1 and Phase 2 courses.
Thought for the week
PHASE 1 Progress: Total 24 courses
Spanish for German - 87% | 94% | 99% | 99% (+0)
Russian for English - 97% | 97% | 97% | 97% (+0)
German for French - 91% | 90% | 86% | 95% (+9) *
German for Portuguese - 80% | 88% | 91% | 93% (+2)
English for Thai - 91% | 90% | 90% | 90% (+0)
German for Turkish - 82% | 85% | 85% | 87% (+2)
Hungarian for English - 80% | 80% | 80% | 80% (+0) ^
Spanish for Russian - 68% | 69% | 70% | 72% (+2)
German for Italian - 70% | 70% | 70% | 70% (+0)
French for Italian - 68% | 69% | 70% | 70% (+0)
Spanish for Italian - 62% | 62% | 62% | 62% (+0)
Polish for English - 50% | 53% | 55% | 56% (+1)
Spanish for Chinese - 53% | 54% | 54% | 54% (+0)
Vietnamese for English - 53% | 53% | 54% | 54% (+0)
Swedish for Russian - 47% | 48% | 49% | 50% (+1)
Hebrew for English - 34% | 36% | 39% | 41% (+2)
French for Chinese - 40% | 40% | 40% | 40% (+0)
Romanian for English - 39% | 39% | 39% | 39% (+0)
Greek for English - 34% | 33% | 34% | 33% (-1)
Catalan for Spanish - 10% | 11% | 15% | 24% (+9) *
Hindi for English - 18% | 18% | 18% | 18% (+0) ^
Klingon for English - 12% | 13% | 14% | 15% (+1)
Yiddish for English - 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% (+0)
Czech for English - 2% | 5% | 6% | 7% (+1) ^
Mean - 1.25% | 1.21% | 0.83% | 1.21% (+0.38)
Median - 1% | 1% | 1% | 0% (-1)
* This week's Leaders Extraordinaire!
^ The Hungarian, Hindi, & Czech teams' progress is as per their own calculation.
Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
BREAKING NEWS: A Green Owl flies In The Arabs’ Skies
At last, our course reaches the final phase… Graduation! In the past few weeks we launched the course on Android & iPhone and we noticed an astonishing increase in the number of users while maintaining a stable report curve. Our course is finally mature enough for graduation. After a long journey, our green owl unlocks phase 3 marking “English for Arabic Speakers” as the first Arabic course on Duolingo! It wouldn’t have been possible without you, your reports and your topics in the forums stirred the team’s agenda, so thank you!
Next, the team will keep adding new exercises and lessons to enrich the course, all while planning for the long-awaited “Arabic for English Speakers” course, so stay tuned ;)
** The photo was designed by the amazing Osama (GunnyTunes)
وأخيراً يصل منهجنا إلى المحطة الأخيرة... التخرّج! في الأيام الماضية قمنا بإطلاق المنهج على منصتي الأندرويد والآيفون ورصدنا زيادة مذهلة في عدد المستخدمين بينما ظلت التقارير في نطاقها الطبيعي، وهذا يدل على وصول المنهج إلى النضج الكافي لإخراجه من مرحلة البيتا. بعد رحلة طويلة تصل بومتنا الخضراء اليوم إلى المرحلة الثالثة ليصبح منهج "الإنجليزية لمتكلّمي اللغة العربية" أول منهج للغة العربية على دوولينجو! لم نكن لنصل إلى ما حققناه اليوم دونكم، تقاريركم ومواضيعكم على المنتدى وجّهت أجندة الفريق، فشكراً لكم!
في الفترة القادمة سيستمر الفريق في العمل على إضافة تمارين ودروس جديدة لإثراء المنهج، ذلك بالإضافة إلى التخطيط من أجل المنهج الذي طال انتظاره... منهج "العربية لمتكلّمي اللغة الإنجليزية"، فابقوا معنا ;)
** الصورة من تصميم الرائع أسامة (GunnyTunes)
luke51991 from [Team Norwegian] was quite concise when he shared this 5 days ago:
It has been a long time since we updated you guys recently, but we have surely been working day and night on the course and now we can anounce that we've reached 40%!
Thanks to our wonderful team, we are progressing very well and at an high (and human) rate!
We don't have our own estimated date for reaching 100% yet, but keep tracking our progress and don't forget to check here for more updates.
Also, we have already completed 861 words!
For those of you guys who have Facebook - Don't forget to join us here.
That's all for now.
Hem posat el turbo! (¡hemos puesto el turbo!)
Pues sí, se nota que el equipo de colaboradores ha crecido. Somos ya cuatro los que echamos una mano a @doktorkampi, el valiente que empezó esta aventura en solitario... y los resultados ahí están. En pocas semanas hemos pasado del 11% al 19% y la fecha estimada de finalización del curso está cada vez más cerca.
Como curiosidad, pensamos que es interesante que haya algún personaje divertido que vaya saliendo en algunas lecciones del curso. Así, que no os extrañe si veis una tortuga azul en la habitación de vuestra hermana o un cangrejo acompañando a un burro. Esperamos que os lo paséis tan bien realizando el curso como nosotros lo estamos haciendo creándolo.
Ukrainian course. UPDATE.
Every summer has a story.. We hope your summer is bringing you only the nicest moments and the greatest stories to remember. One of the things you surely can be proud of is your personal Duolingo journey. We are glad to see people conquering language trees, keeping on streaks, getting well-deserved XPs and lingots. Indeed, Duolingo is creating a story of your language victories!
Ukrainian course numbers nearly 60k learners for now. Beta is going on and there's a lot to do. Couple of months there was not much Incubator activity from the team but we ARE coming back. We are resuming to process your reports, fix errors and facilitate your learning. And we want to thank those who keep helping our students on to successful learning - ДЯКУЄМО!
An important task for us to do by the end of this month is completing the audio. We've already received the list of the sentences that are "voiceless" and scheduled the recordings.
A new team member (native English speaker who speaks excellent Ukrainian) was invited to help make the English translations of sentences more.. English and less Ukrainian :)))
We do see things that need to be fixed/changed/improved thanks to your feedback. But your positive comments and grateful remarks are also nice to see, thank you for those!
Enjoy the rest of your summer with Duolingo!
We have a new member!
We have a new member! Welcome Croesus1983B!
Mise à jour du 12 août 2015: Tamuna10
Bienvenue à notre nouvelle membre de l'équipe IT<-FR, Tamuna10 :)
We are now at 252 words, or 7 percent done. (Continuing on the assumption that there will be 3,700 words in the end.) This week we mostly worked on the accusative of the personal pronouns and started on the nominative and accusative of the possessive pronouns. By the feel of it, these pronouns are likely to offer the first encounter with the more frustrating Czech grammar features in the tree, if we leave them where they are in Skills 10 and 11.
To explain Duo's wildly optimistic estimates of the percent done and the expected date of completion: we started with an empty tree, so Duo's tracker does not know how many words will eventually be added, or what 100 percent means
Wir sind derzeit dabei noch einmal den Kurs zu überprüfen, uns so viele fehlende oder fehlerhafte Übersetzungen wie möglich rauszuwerfen, bevor wir in die Beta-Phase starten. Mit über 2000 Wörtern im Kurs, mindestens 3 Sätzen pro Wort, und oftmals mehreren hundert möglichen Übersetzungen pro Satz wird der Kurs zwar nicht perfekt sein bevor er in die Beta-Phase kommt, aber zumindest wollen wir ganz offensichtliche Fehler rausschmeißen und probieren so konsistent wie möglich mit unseren akzeptierten Antworten zu sein. Habt also bitte noch etwas Geduld mit uns!
Liebe Grüße Das DE/ES Team
Week 10: 18% complete, beta launch 10-Dec-2015
There is progress on the tree design, but no progress to report this week in terms of percentage.
TL;DR As many as 10 updates, two teams achieving 9% progress, and two teams (Arabic & Norwegian) exiting beta!
The next update is expected on Sunday, 23rd of August at 3:00 pm UTC.
Previous Update 02-Aug to 09-Aug
I love reading The Weekly Incubator Update. I really do :) Thanks for the hard work, guys.
An ode on the incubator. :)
Can't wait to Czech Czech. Although I also want to know what's beHind the Hindi course... Maybe I should rename my Cat, Alan would suit him better. Team Russian, don't start Rushing, just those last pesky skills (and other things) and you'll roam an iconic Beta phase! (Ignore the last one :) ) Team Polish, keep polishing every single part of your course! Team Hebrew! Hey! Brewing an awesome course, right? :) (I waste way to much Thaim on the Incubator, watching other courses...) Okay, I know what you're thinking. I'm a GrEEK.
P.S. I Hung a riant new poster in my room yesterday :-) I hope it keeps Cling'n on the wall!
Let me Sweden the deal with a Canada yummy cranberry sauce. It's really good on Turkey.
I'm just here waiting hoping Russian won't take another month to get out in beta.
From what ShadyArc has said, it sounds like we need to kick someone on the Duolingo staff to get on programming the TTS.
And hopefully one of the additions during these three months will be Finnish for English.
Arabic and Indonesian for English speakers should both be coming sooner rather than later.
It has usually taken a couple months for the reverse course to get added, so I wouldn't count on Arabic. Indonesian and Finnish on the other hand...
What needs to change for the incubator to be ready for an Arabic course?
That is really to bad. I was hoping with all the language with different script being added (Hebrew, Hindi, etc.) that the right-to-left problem wouldn't be to huge anymore. sigh
Guess I will have to work with Memrise for a while longer.
Thanks for the heads up though, that it is a technical problem with the incubator.
I don't think it should be a problem, mostly because Hebrew is a different script language and also a right-to-left language, just like Arabic, so I don't see why it would be a big problem to add Arabic for English. I know that they wouldn't add it this early, because English for Arabic just graduated, but it wouldn't be too huge of a problem to add it.
UneJamKuqEZi, and what about Albanian? Have you ever thought about creating the course? :)
I have thought about creating it, but I sadly am not fluent in Albanian. I am fluent with speaking and listening, but not reading and writing. So, I don't see how I could help since most of the Duolingo lessons are reading and writing.
Hi... is there anyting going on with the Yiddish course? we haven't seen any progress in weeks :(
Everybody deserves a good vacation! :) They'll be back. I know they'll be back. ;)
Czech is planning on 3,700 words?! That's fantastic! Are they just that much more enthusiastic about their tree or is there some serious expansion for existing trees in the works?
I'm not sure how the words are counted in Duo, but if all the cases of a word (all variants with different endings) are counted as separate words, then a big number will be necessary.
Interesting! I wasn't sure what you meant by word cases, so I looked it up and discovered why. The language that I am learning is analytic, meaning that it has a set word order. However, Czech is synthetic, meaning that the ending of the word determines its function. Because of that, there is no set word order. Do you know how many cases there are in Czech?
Seven. Not as much as in some other languages (like Finnish, for example), but still a lot to give learners a tough time.
Whew, sounds difficult! I am one happy panda that French is analytic, not systematic!
I used to think this was a scary thing, but I don't anymore, there are very regular and logical patterns you can use, and at the end of the day you are just conveying the same information you would in English or French, even if it might seem upside down compared to the way you are used to.
It sounds scarier than it really is, and to be honest, I think at least a small part of that is down to native speakers finding it hard to explain a concept that is deeply ingrained to new learners. Think of the last time you had to explain some peculiarity of English to anyone, it is nearly impossible without training...soit gets played up a bit, when it is not that hard, just different.
Some very exciting news, but I'm disappointed the 1% progress we saw last week in the Hungarian course wasn't real.
I can't wait to start Ukrainian, though! :))))
I really wish that team Russian would post a short update on their incubator page telling us how the current progress on the ENG > RUS course is going. I'm really looking forward to the course, but the incubator's estimated release date is meaningless at this point.
I almost gave a little scream for joy when I saw German from French advance +9 to 95% after last week's -1! Hopefully this means a very soon release? Dare I hope?
Dunno. It might still be a while. A lot of courses sit at 100 until they get out of beta.
I'm using this time (however long it may be) to pass my daughter in French, hopefully :-).
One of the contributors said, three days ago, that it probably wouldn't be before September.
Does anybody know what's going on with the English for Thai course? They haven't updated in literally a year, and the progress hasn't moved for a few months either.
I remember joining Duolingo on August 2014 and they were at 89%... At least they made some progress in one year
For some reason the only contributor won't add any others despite explicitly being suggested so.
Wow, what happened?
Also, https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/en/th/status lists four contributors. I hope they're all OK!
Dunno, some months ago there was only one active and when suggesting adding new contributers they replied my 'Yes we should', but none were added for weeks. Though now it seems there are three active on duo and who knows how many of them are working on the course.
Fantastic work by the German for French course volunteers! I'm looking forwards to the release.
Me too! It'll be doubly good because I'll have to do it from Spanish, so good review and lots of hard work. Can't wait to see the Catalonian flag. I wonder what monument or image they will use on their logo?
They already have a course page, and the main monument is the Arc de Trionf in Barcelona, a bit of a strange choice, since most people, the course contributors included, thought the Sagrada Familia was the obvious choice, but it has been relegated to the background.
Yes, we will get an answer from the design team soon (hopefully sooner than the works on the Sagrada Família are finished).
A beautiful building, had the pleasure of visiting while in Barcelona last year. I hope some day I can learn Catalan, it always looked very interesting and special. I also love the fact that it's a smaller European language - will be nice to see what is accomplished in Duolingo's future with regards to representing those sorts of languages!
The Sagrada Familia was one of the most beautiful sights I've ever seen in my life... I went earlier in the summer. Both the exterior and the interior were absolutely stunning. Gaudi was an amazing architect... I got to see the Park Guell too. I wish he could've made more...