https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

Flag levels against posts showing incorrectly?

Apologies if this has been addressed before, but I did not find anything about it by doing a search.

I have level 25 in German, but often it shows in my posts as level 7 or 8 against the language flag icon. Similarly, my French flag often shows as a few levels higher than I have achieved.

Has anyone else reported this problem, and if so how do I fix it please?

Sod's Law, of course - no sooner had I posted than the problem resolved itself for now. But I'd still like to know how to fix it if/when it happens again. (No, it's gone again.)

August 16, 2015

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

I think quite a few of us have had it. I don't think it's a problem so much as an anomaly - you can quite often see your levels showing differently in different posts in the same thread. It's random, I don't think there's anything you can do to fix it, though leveling up may have an effect.

In the course of editing this post, my Spanish level has changed by 7 levels and my English by one.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/duonks
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Duo has been getting confused for about a year now... This happens when you have a same target language from different base languages, for example, and most likely has to do with the way duo queries the totals.

In my case, I used to be able to get up to three different levels for some of my languages... on one single screenshot ! :-D

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

I wonder if that is it - I have been doing French from both English and Spanish for a while now, but while that might explain why my French level is confused it doesn't seem to explain the fluctation in my German level. Hmmm.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/duonks
  • 1949

Test ;-p

I have no logical explanation... Italian shows three different levels, others only two :-D

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeIouch

Have you ever reset a German tree from a different base language? A while ago I was trying to figure out the cause of the discrepancies between the levels displayed in the forums and those displayed on profiles...I tested it a few times and in my case if I were to reset say FR=>ES then my Spanish level in the forum would go to 0 and then any further progress I made in EN=>ES would be added to the new base of 0, despite having had a much higher level in my profile.

And yes, I would get the same thing with it temporarily fixing itself when you make a post.

September 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

I have never reset any of my trees, and there are no complications with the German one as I have done it entirely from English. This does seem to be an inexplicable glitch at present.

September 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

But I don't have English from Spanish and it's always the Spanish that's wonky.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/duonks
  • 1949

Have you done Spanish from more than one language (English and French, for example?

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

No.

August 17, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jairapetyan

I posted about this problem a few days ago, but received only one comment from one of my best DL friends; you can see it here:

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/9993618

Thanks for teaching me about Sod's law. :) Have a lingot.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

Thanks for the feedback. It's clear now that it affects many other people and is something to be put up with rather than resolved.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

As long as it's flattering rather than detracting, I wouldn't worry about it.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

I'm afraid it bothers me both ways as I have a real antipathy to claiming anything I'm not entitled to. It's one reason I would never game the system and why it irritates me so much when others do so.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

I know what you mean but it makes me laugh when the site claims I'm far too good at a language of which I know the square root of diddly squat.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

Indeed. That as well. All these dodgy measures of "achievement" bug the hell out of me. One either knows something or one doesn't. Flattering those who don't but who want to think they do does them no favours in the long run and devalues the efforts of those who genuinely have put in the work to learn.

August 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dessamator

I looked a bit at the profile info Duo uses to generate this. There are many things that come into play. It is related to learning same languages from different courses or strange different combinations. At some point Duolingo decided to change how it counted the xp for each language (https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4352750), and that further complicated the matter. For example, my account shows two (maybe more) different levels for French 13 which I suspect is from (Pt - French), and 25 (French - English).

The little known fact is if one tries to do immersion from say, English - German while learning German - English some points will be put into your account for English.

My guess is that once you switch your account to learn French from spanish, it tries to find your German level, since it is one of the courses available to learn from Spanish. When it can't find that data, it likely returns something else (e.g your English level) or wrong data.

The bottom line is that because the interface is being used in unintended ways that resulted in some disconnect between the back-end and the front-end.

Fixing it would likely require resetting some courses or waiting for Duo to fix it someday.

August 18, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

Thank you. That's a very thorough and helpful explanation. I guess it is going to be an issue for the foreseeable future for anyone laddering between languages. That's fine. At least I know there is nothing simple that I could be doing to stop this happening.

August 18, 2015
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