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Too many verbs at once

sakasiru
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I have proceeded fairly well through the tree until I hit a wall right in the middle. First, I got 70 verbs in the past tense. Sure, I knew most of them in present tense already, but it's six new forms per word nonetheless. = 420 new forms. Right after this comes a lesson with 70 NEW verbs. Even if I mostly get sentences with them in present tense, those are another 420 forms. Right next to this we learn infinitives, which gives us an additional form to all known verbs and some new ones for good measure. And right after that, I find myself in the lesson for phrasal future and guess what, even there I get some brand new verbs. I am really starting to lose motivation at this point. I know that those verbs constitute some basic vacabulary, but can't you sneak them into some of the themed lessons spread over the tree rather than burying me in them all at once? It's really not fun anymore.

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
olimo
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Haha, wait till you get to Adverbs: 2! From my experience of learning French and German, this is the most awful unit.

I totally agree with you. Words should be given by topics and not by parts of speech. To learn new tenses, it would be better to use verbs that have already been learned so that you could focus on the grammar and not on memorizing new words.

Of course revising and practice are good, but sometimes you just feel the ineffectiveness of the method and it's upsetting. With Adverbs, I just realized I'd better pass them as quickly as I can and learn them in a natural environment while reading books. And I really learned them faster and with less pain.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EvelynK.
EvelynK.
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I totally agree with you! I am currently stuck at the past tense already... :-o

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VStarTraveler
VStarTraveler
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Evelyn, you'll do fine, just keep at it and keep practicing (and practicing!). Also, record all of the base words/infinitives, and visit conjugation.org to get the complete conjugations if you need them. Good luck!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EvelynK.
EvelynK.
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Thanks for the kind words! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VStarTraveler
VStarTraveler
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I'm right there with you on this, and would have loved to have seen this spread out a bit more. Here's another recent discussion about this same issue.

http://www.duolingo.com/comment/969158

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ruthlilycat

Wow, ty for this. I know you're an expert at German but for me Adverbs 1 in German was killer. I felt that there were so many new words all the time. I had google translate open just so I could get through it. The problem is I retained none of it, probably my fault since I was using google translate to help me. And now, due to me using google translate to just get through Adverbs 1 in German, duo thinks I "know" these words! No, I do not! At all. On the "Strengthen lessons" part, I am several places way back. I wish there were strengthening "strengthen lessons" without having to live through adverbs 1 again, but I fear I'm going to have to do the entire 8 lessons again! Plus all the vocab. Yikes!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ruthlilycat

sakasiru - for what it's worth, I've been working on "strengthen lessons" again, in fact all night. And I'm now seeing those Adverbs 1 German words that I wasn't seeing. Slog through it, you'll get to it, I think and you'll get a lot of practice. It has taken a couple of hours because I am not good at this, but you'll get to practice them again. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
sakasiru
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That's great! But I guess you can't learn the use of every adverb with the duo method, that's something you just have to read and hear so often that it just feels right wich to use. Of course, you have to learn the general meaning first anyway, so congratulations on feeling more confident now.

I have repeted the actual lessons of the past section multiple times by now. You can't strengthen the whole lesson on the iPhone, so I did each sub lesson one after another, usually 3-4 a day. But I found myself skipping that task more and more and just doing an "streak saver" in the evening so I started to think about why I was losing motivation. I hope I have overcome it now. It is very helpful to read that there are others who hit their personal speed bump and still are able to move on. I often see people completing the whole tree with half the levels I gained and wonder how they do it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ruthlilycat

IDK if this helps but I frequently do DL like this: while doing housework. ie, folding clothes and doing lessons. Also I try to motivate myself to fold the clothes in one basket then do an entire lesson in DL in an easy language that I can deal with. German is extremely difficult so I fold one thing, work on just one sentence, then fold another thing, work on another sentence. Same thing with dishes, the cat box, etc. Doing chores which are hard for me, and German which is hard for me, makes it all a bit more fun, if you understand what I mean. I guess doing 2 tasks at once helps,. Or sometimes, I play music from youtube, fold clothes & do DL German to get through, multi-tasking! :).

4 years ago