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Turkish is interesting here. They have two words for "and" (ve and ile), but only ile means "with" and implies two things joined together. I believe that "adamla kadin nerede" is the same as "adam ile kadin nerede" as the suffix here is adam(-ile), which is abbreviated with vowel harmony to adam-la.
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My understanding is that this is the original Turkish way to say "and", where "ve" was a later borrowing from Persian.
Le to La because of 2-way vowel harmony, I know. Then, what case is omitting 'i'?
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If I got what you're saying right, it would be 'Yanında kadın olan adam nerede?'.
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I have the same question, because as far as I knew, 'adamla kadın' means the man with the woman, and 'adam ve kadın' means the man and the woman. Am I right?
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Would 'Kadınla adam nerede' have the same meaning, but with a different subtext? Or does it sound weird?
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If the order is not important, why is "where are the woman and the man" considered wrong as a translation? Also "where is the woman with the man" is considered wrong, it does sound a little bit weird but i've seen weirder... It seemed to me that "adamla" means "with the man", that implies that the main subject is the woman and one of her characteristics is that she is with a man (as you would say "the woman with the red dress"), which is why i'd put her first in the sentence.
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It is not accepted because it is not the order in this sentence. But it doesn't matter when you talk.
'A woman (who is) with a man' would be 'Adamla(/ın yanında) olan kadın'. 'Adam ile/ve kadın' means a man and a woman whereas 'adamla olan kadın' a woman who is together with a man.
So, which type of vowel harmony does the (with) case follow exactly? Here we say "adamla", and in another sentence "odalı"?
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'-lı' is a different suffix. Or is equivalent of -y or -ful in English. (süt-lü/milk-y,güç-lü/ power-ful).
Suffixes either have a and e forms or ı,i,u,ü forms.Since said suffix has a as vowel it has two forms.
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Yes, they are.(I considerazione that you used the word with its general meaning and not as noun cases.)
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İ have read comments but cant get when ile is translated as with and when translated as and
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me too got this question ...
would be glad someone could explain
thanks!
