what is the difference between "voi scrivete" and "tu scrivi"? Both means "you write", someone knows, is just curiosity ^.^
Voi refers to you all.. as in a group of people.. Tu means you to someone you know. For example my boyfriend ( who is Italian ) and I always use the tu form because we know each other. If I say.. you write to him.. its Tu scrivi.
Voi scrivete : means you all write, like you give them an orded or sth. Tu scrivi : means that you write, like you write in usual.
Tu scrivi means you write singular while voi scrivete means you all write as a plural as in a group rathee rhan a single person
Tu scrivi 2nd person singular or you singular. Voi scrivete 2nd person plural or you plural.
Repetition is the only way to memorize and learn a new language. It's the same way you remember words in your own language today. There is no magic behind this to learning a new language. Grammar can come naturally by developing your ear to know what sounds right without dedicating time strictly to learning grammar
It helps some people who read visually to associate the foreign words with pictures or actions while if a person learns audibly, they will want to associate the sounds to the words or pictures. I learn visually and audibly, so, rather than associating english words with Italian words, I usually connect the sound or the italian word to an image of the action or object the word portrays. Either way. It depends on how you learn.
I think to understand it all you just need to pay attention. The key for success is to listen, speak, and act. Like theater to learn is to pay attention. Like -Tu goes to Scrivi as -Lo goes to Scrivo and so on- voi is for scrivete. And i absolutely love DUOLINGO just to get that out.
Um I just started learning Italian,and it's a bit tricky for me to remember when to you use "scrivo,scrivete,etc" so could somebody please make a list for us. Thanks a bunch, really appreciate it!
google Italian verb conjugations. But from what I can tell, the regular endings for "to write" are I: -o
You (plural): -ete
the accent usually falls on the last but one syllable. That means that the syllable is stressed and the vowel sounds slightly longer . In "scrivete" the stressed syllable is -ve-
That would sound very Frenchy :-) (it would be written "scriveté"). The accent is in the first "e" ("scrivete"): its sound is slightly longer than the other vowels.
verb+are (example: mangiare)
io: mangio noi: mangiamo tu: mangi voi: mangiate lui/lei: mangia loro: mangiano
verb+ire (example: dormire [to sleep])
io: dormo noi: dormiamo tu: dormi voi: dormite lui/lei: dorme loro: dormono
verb+ere (example: leggere)
io: leggo noi: leggiamo tu: leggi voi: leggete lui/lei: legge loro: leggono
look for the patterns and just remember one set. The --are's differ from the --ire's and the --ere's who basically work the same. So identify where are is different from the group ire & ere then learn how inside the group ere and ire differ.
I hope this helped.
wow I spent a lot of time formatting that really nicely and Duolingo crushed it all down...
The spacing always gets crushed down, I feel your disappointment after all that work. I haven't checked yet but there must be a discussion about this somewhere (if anyone knows please let me know) there are several improvements I would like to see such as displaying the HTML links so they work when I touch them on my phone.
And not having to hit the continued button twice in order to continue. the memrise app moves itself on and is much less finger intensive!!
Ciao Lcroghan: What is the best way to remember these [deleted] verbs? Study, study, repeat, study, repeat, study, repeat. Then, repeat all of the above.
If you mean the meaning, then the constant repetition offered by Duolingo helps a lot. If you refer to the conjugation then I suggest you learn patterns and example verbs.
I'm brasilian and I already speak italian since 2011, I have to confess to you that to an English speaker learn a "latin" language is terrible, because we use to have a lot of verbs variation, as a portuguese native speaker and italian teacher, I have to say that you have to repeat all of it over and over again, because the pattern, that someone said before, will not be the same for every verb (we have the irregular verbs in italian)
Study Latin and how its verbs are conjugated and its nouns declined. It's what helped develop my Italian
There is no need to study Latin to learn Italian :-) Italian's patterns may be derived from Latin, but Latin itself is far from regular so you would need to study proto-Latin to get a grip of Latin's verb conjugations and case declinations and so forth:-)
I don't like this translation, voi scrivete is more like "you all write" It is a pluralization. It's not just you writing, its you and the others. Duolingo makes that hard to differentiate on this question and makes it confusing for beginners.
Its okay to be confused. Just keep going on and it will become easy for you.!
Scrivete is "write" for the 2nd person in plural (Voi - You) and scrivono is "write" for the 3rd person in plural (Loro - They)
How do you know if it voi scrivo, scrivono, scrivete? I find it hard to know which version of the word you should be using
I don't know the difference between scrivono or scrivi or all the words that refer to 'write' Can someone help me
Voi scrivete means you are all writting (more than one person) Tu scrivi means you are writting or you write, (one person)
My "you all write" was marked wrong. Why is that? Am I misunderstanding the difference between "tu scrivi" and voi scrivete"? Not according to some of the other comments here.
It would be SO helpful if the page always clarified which "you": Like "You write (plural)" vs. "You write (singular)" or "You (all) write" vs. "You (individual) write." It's like they don't know its always the same word in English.
English lets you optionally make a plural 'you' by saying, "you all," with some southern U.S. accents rendering it, "y'all." Not too long ago, it was common to hear first generation Italians in New York say, "yous."
How is it pronounced? the first e sounds like "i" (is) like "e" (elephant) or something between "i" and "e"?
Quality on some Duolingo audio, and the sometimes rapid speech, occasionally makes it hard to hear the exact sounds. I actually find 'e' one of the hardest sounds to nail consistently. Here's what I think it is—and anyone please feel free to correct me:
The exact Italian 'E' sound doesn't happen in English, but neither does it require an unfamiliar mouth shape (like 'gli,' etc.). It is between the 'e' in the English word "bet," and the 'a' in the English word fate—with no diphthong.
Italian is one of the languages with the least vowels overall. There are only 7 vowels, represented by 5 written symbols, the "classical" ones: a, e, i, o, u. While "a", "i" and "u" always have the same pronunciation, "e" and "o" are pronounced in two different ways, either as an "open" vowel or as a "close" one.
Thus, your uncertainty about the italian "e" sound might be due to this difference: there are actually two ways to pronouce it. I would say that the "open e" is pronounced like in the English word "bet" (bɛt), while the "close e" like in the English word "fate" (feɪt) (US pronunciation), with no diphthong.
These two different forms can be represented by an accent (è, ò: open form ; é, ó: close form), but practically it is never done, therefore you have to learn the pronunciation by heart, if you want. However, there are huge dissimilarities in how to pronounce "e" and "o" even among the different italian regions, so I don't think it's really important, at all. ;-)
"You lot" was marked as incorrect. And "Y'all" is accepted? That makes me feel ill.
"Y'all" is English for the plural "you" in the American south, especially in areas where many people descend from French or Spanish speakers. Italian communities in the New York area once used "yous" in the same way.
Really, Duolingo should support "y'all, yous, and "you lot" to clarify when the translation involves a plural you—perhaps with a clarification that it doesn't recommend those words, but is using them to clarify the singular-plural issue.
Google Translate also only uses y'all, and would be better if it also used the others.
(tu) scrivi is second person singular whereas (voi) scrivete is second person plural. Italian has different forms for different persons in conjugations.
It's actually closer to you all write. As in the plural you (yous, ya'll, you all)
Do i use Voi for singular formal use of You as well? So if i want to say "You write (formal)" is it still voi scrivete?
Yes, but it's not advisable. The use of voi as a formal/courtesy pronoun is old-fashioned. Also some people may not appreciate it because, during the fascist era, the use of Lei was prohibited in favour of the use of voi.
Kinda like using 'thou' instead of 'you' in modern English.
This should really by "you guys write". Think of Voi as Y'all. Like how they say in the south.
I have just noticed "Voi" sounds like "vo" is this correct? Or should it really be VOI like in spanish?
I don't think it should be like spanish, because the V in spanish sounds like a "little" b, in italian it sounds just like a V and you have to pronunce the last I, sometimes when we speak, we have the tendence to link words that combine, just as they are one, the same as in English and in Portuguese and in all the other languages ;)
I keep typing the right answer "you write" and it keeps telling me it's wrong.
Come on, guys! I've typed 'you write', the system says this is incorrect, but shows me the same. What's happening?!??
I dont get it cause once is when there is 'voi' then it sais it means 'you' but then once it sais that 'voi' means 'we' . Can somebody help me ?
I am not positive, but isn't Voi when you're speaking to a female and Tu when speaking to a male? I wouldn't go by this but that's what I think is the difference. Good question though! I have the same question.
I am afraid this is not correct. The difference between "tu" and "voi" is that the "tu" translates as "you" when addressing a single individual (person, animal, object, robot) as in " you, Plup123', whereas "voi" is used when addressing several individuals, as in "you, English people"
Voi is to the people of plural amounts and Tu is to one person in particular... Hope that helps!
So, You are all writing a book and You all are writing a book mean different things?? Guess this is "Southern Italian" LOL
Well, it depends who the subject is. If "you" is the single person who is in front of me, then it is "tu". If it is several individuals, then it is "voi". Regarding your question, I am not aware if this is an expression but, from my point of view, the 2 sentences have the same meaning. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I agree that "Voi scrivete un libro" means either You are all writing a book or You all are writing a book but duolingo only allows You all are writing a book.