https://www.duolingo.com/jakesail

"De nouveaux manteaux"

January 1, 2013

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/jakesail

can someone explain why it's de instead of des?

January 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/siebolt

because of the adjective between the partitive article and the noun. It would have been "des manteaux jaunes" It is not a cast iron rule, but use it and it will save a lot of irritation with duolingo.

January 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/wataya

Yes, it's best to go on like siebolt said. We had a lengthy in detail discussion of the topic some months ago with lots of quotes from all sorts of dictionaries. Unfortunately, I can't find it anymore.

January 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/siebolt

I got my "rule" from that discussion.

January 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/anders.knudsen

I don't understand the rule here. Can anyone elaborate?

March 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/wataya

I found our former discussion: http://duolingo.com/#!/comment/27813 Happy reading ;-)

March 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo

Why isn't "De nouveau manteau" correct? Is the pronunciation different?

January 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jakesail

The pronunciation of de (da) and des (day) is slightly different

January 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo

Ah, of course, just like le and les. Makes sense... thanks so much!

January 27, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/martinkunev

Why plural? What's wrong with "De nouveau manteau"?

January 24, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/reyzvolution

I'm wondering about this, too. The pronunciation of nouveau manteau and nouveaux manteaux is the same (at least to my ear). How are we supposed to know which form (singular or plural) follows de?

Or is it because de here means "some"? That if it's singular it would be un nouveau manteau?

June 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jakesail

I think since manteaux is plural. The singular form would be manteau

January 24, 2013
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