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Accents on vowels: will being lazy backfire?

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At this point I'm sure most of you know that when you input an answer in a foreign language lacking accent marks, it's still accepted as correct. Unfortunately due to this we might get confused between words spelled similarly but with different accents on ä, å and ö, and thus different meanings. Just wondering where other people lie on this issue; do you self-police and always put down the accents, or just cross your fingers and hope it's committed to memory and continue being lazy? I'd also appreciate the feedback of those farther in the Swedish tree and how you fare accent-wise.

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Zmrzlina
Zmrzlina
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I really, really wouldn't recommend learners to treat ÅÄÖ as accented letters and be lazy about them. They're letters in their own right in Swedish, and they ought to be learned as such. They're no more skippable than it is OK to write P instear of R in English, just because they look similar.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheSlavLad
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How about you guys implement the obligatory öäå whenever a word requires them? I don't think it would be a bad idea since it would encourage people to threat these as real letters. Also they shouldn't be counted as typos but as mistakes since you'd be required to press a completely different letter. Far and får sound nothing alike so it shouldn't be counted as a typo. Just my two kronor.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zmrzlina
Zmrzlina
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Sadly, that's a hardcode thing we can't do anything about with the contributor tools. But we agree with you.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Berniebud
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I always write out the 'ä', 'å' and 'ö'. I don't think of them as just accents. They have pretty distinct sounds from plain 'a' and 'o', plus 'å' is considered its own separate letter by most Swedes.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheSlavLad
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I always skip on writing ö, ä and å because I know I memorized the word. It's easy to remember. But those aren't just accented As and O, they're actual letters.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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That's true. The actual Swedish alphabet goes until Z and then has Å, Ä and Ö.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/--Charlotte--
--Charlotte--
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So how does the Swedish alphabet song go?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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I don't really know, as the alphabet has only three aditional letters I haven't searched for a song ;) But it might be interesting

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sareenie
sareenie
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Okay, that totally explains this Ikea framed poster then: http://www.outside-the-line.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/0099119_PE240712_S31.jpg

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lisa1240

I always write them. They're not simply accents, they're different letters with different sounds.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarkBorkBorkBork

I always type the proper letter, and I consider it a mistake if I misremember. The only accented letter I've seen in the course is é, though à, è, and ü also exist in loan words and names from what I understand. It does involve an extra keystroke for me to type the letters not on a US layout keyboard, but I feel it's a bad idea to type incorrect spellings.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JuditBondar
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I always write "ö" and "ä", beacuse these are on my keyboard. But I am sometimes too lazy to click on "å", so I just write "a" instead of it. And I know I shouldn't. :(

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/-..--..-.-.-.-

Install a Swedish keyboard?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JuditBondar
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I did, but I was even slower with it. I have QWERTZ keyboard, and the "ö" and "ä" letters are not on the wonted key either. :) But I have ó,ő,é,á,ü,ű instead of å. :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/--Charlotte--
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quick tip: ALTGR + w = å

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dorianbtdp
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I downloaded a software called "clavier +" (it's french but there must be similar in english, also their website is in english (http://utilfr42.free.fr/util/Clavier.php?sLang=en) and I've made that "maj + a" = "å" and "maj + o"= "ø" (not the maj lock) and for the ö as I have a French keyboard I can already write it easily. But you can choose whatever is natural for you (even replace + or things like that and disable it when you're not using duolingo). Anyway, I think that once you know a word and that you're looking at the correction and listening to the pronunciation you wouldn't make mistake.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/magicafan
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I always write them. They're just as important as any other letter, and I want to remember words properly. (Btw, is that a picture of Hotaru? xD)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sareenie
sareenie
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Ja, Sailor Saturn is my favorite senshi!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/magicafan
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I loooove Sailor Moon! :D That's awesome!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sailormoonxuan6b

me too

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/porpsi

i always try to write the proper letter. If i dont it's because i dont know it. But i've macroed the extra buttons on my keyboard to be the extra letters. If i had to click them on the screen each time i would probably be lazier.

Worse for me is when i use the mobile app, since my phone auto corrects so much that i can be REALLY lazy.. and i am, because i dont like typing on my phone.

2 years ago