I will say, I have an excellent audio setup, AND I've studied French for years (I'm testing out of the sections I know), and I STILL had difficulty understanding this pronunciation.
I have no problem with it. Where have you been studiying French? Maybe it's a matter of accent, we have a lot of way to pronunce in France, and many accents, and the pronunciation can be different for a same word said by a same speaker, according to his mood. (I can pronunce a word with a sweet voice, or very fast when I'm angry, I'm sure you would think it's two different words, I can play with the length of a sound, make it shorter or longer, pronunce longer letter "e" or almost skip them.
Can you please tell me the correct pronunciation of bienvenue? The DL audio is a bit blurry.
Yeah, same here. Maybe it's because it's an automated voice, but some words sound strange.
In this fill-in-the-blank, there were two options: "Bienvenue" and "Au revoir" there was absolutely NO other context preceding or following, just the blank space. How could "Au revoir" be incorrect?
aelisk- au revoir is wrong because it's the opposite of bienvenue. bienvenue, when you comme to my house, but au revoir when you leave.
I don't hear anything wrong with it. I can always tell what they are saying.
As a native, I can't hear this "sh" sound, and the pronunciation is fine to me.
"Sh" is closest sound in English, but the sound sounds closer to how the French pronounce "j" to me.
Anyway, we need some native speaker (Sitesurf?) whether and how the French use this sound on the end of some words. Is it tied to some dialect? Or do most French speak like this? And in what words?
For comparison, in Czech many people add "v" to the beginning of words normally starting with "o". Some dialects don't have this and it's definitely not "correct", but it's commonly used in everyday speech. It's usually not used in words connected with some reverence, for example very few people pronounce "oltář" ("altar") as "voltář". I guess it's similar with common French and the sound we all hear in the end of "bienvenue" here.
I'm not native to french, and though I can't hear the 'sh' sound in any of the vocalizations in the frovo link, I can hear it in this exercise.
I'm a native English speaker living in France. My French is not very good, but I think what you can hear at the end is a more 'aspirated' sound than the English 'u' or 'oo' sound. French speakers blow out a puff of air with their lips pursed to pronounce this sound. Try pronouncing 'oo' as you would in English, but with lips more pursed together and blowing out a puff of air at the same time. This is what I can hear in the recording, rather than a 'sh' sound.
I didn't even have any audio with this exercise! It just said, select the missing word, with "Bienvenue" or "au revoir" as options... how does that make any sense?
What is the context of beinvenue? Is it like a "you are welcome," or a "welcome to my house?"
Perhaps both, depending on the situation?
Bienvenue is "welcome", as in "welcome to my house." If you wanted to say "You're welcome", as a response to a thank you, you'd say "de rien", which exactly translates to "it was nothing".
wait, i read 'feminine' below the translation, is 'welcome' has a masculine in french too ?
I thought this was helpful: http://french.lovetoknow.com/You%27re_Welcome_in_French
Bienvenue is "welcome", as in "welcome to my house." De rien is "you're welcome", or more literally, "it was nothing".
What do you think about the translator. In a sentence she sounds like saying Beernu and what she is trying to say is Bienvenue (Welcome) Anybody else has a problem understanding her? or is it my hearing that is going bad!!!
Bienvenue sounds like the Spanish Bienvenido, and that means welcome.That is how I remember it. :)
I am curious to know on what theory the feminine seems to be the default. isn't the masculine usual? it must be an agreement with some understood feminine word, I guess. can someone say what that is, or give me the right reason?
I have the same question. As far as rules have been explained, this is difficult to be translated in English as this would only mean “Welcome” for one woman as the “e” denotes it is feminine “Bienvenu” would be for one man; “Bienvenus” for a group of men and “Bienvenues” would be for a group of women.
When I learnt French back in middle and just most of elementary school (how is two years[grade three and four] long enough to forget how converse in French), I learnt that you could say "bienvenue" as "Your welcome" as well as "Welcome"... is it a Canadian/Prairie thing or what? Am I remembering wrong? I don't know...
the end is like the beginning of usual. most of the time i hear it like byan-venyu. or with the ending its like byan-ven-us(ual) without the ual.
does here welcome used as a reply of thanks or is it like welcome to some place
does this have a literal translation like au revoir's "until we meet again"?