https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

Boycott Done

You probably don't care about what I have to say, and I'm sorry, that's my fault. It was brash to boycott a well-meaning, great site that I am obliged to for greatly improving my French. I still hold to it that I don't personally appreciate some of the BuzzFeed articles, but when I saw things like @Zach, a diligent studier, quit Duolingo, I decided I was causing too much havoc about something that doesn't really interfere with my experience on Duolingo, since I'm an English speaker and will not have any part in translating those articles. I apologize also for posting a discussion that was downvoted so many times, it was cluttering up the Discussion area, and I had just denounced cluttering and being a troll. @Zach, I guess you're not ever probably going to read this now, since you're gone, but, we really do appreciate the good suggestions and comments you gave to all of the Duoers. I never meant to have my post be the one where @Zach decides he's done with this great site. My apologies to everyone.

5 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

Thanks Mats.Ceascui for your comment. I appreciate you voicing your concerns, and the team is definitely continuing to take a close look at the content. Thank you! We do encourage different opinions (that's what makes language learning so interesting for many of us- the varying interpretations and ways of saying the same thing). But, as some of our moderators have mentioned we want to keep it respectful. This is a place for everyone to share ideas and thoughts on language learning. In short- your thread did not cause a member to quit :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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It takes a lot to come back and post something like this. :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vifon_the_Dog
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I appreciate what you're saying here, Mats. But I have no idea what the heck happened, care to explain?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

Is there a lesson to be learned (by several of us) about handling things (on Duo and elsewhere) we do not agree with?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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This really makes me curious. Could someone please tell us what's going on?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nitram.
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it all happened during Europe was sleeping (including me): http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1033614

the "deactivated user" in the discussion above used to be Zach, who deleted himself as everyone besieged him (or at least that's what he felt, let's try and remain neutral).

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vifon_the_Dog
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Thanks for the link! It's a shame that Zach decided to leave this site, his ideas and viewpoints were important in the sense that he challenged status quo and made us think. Hope he'll not leave this site altogether and is somewhere hidden ready to strike back. :))

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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He was more of an antagonist to many people and served to fuel several too heated debates. If he could still have his views, but share them in a more civil way, we'd be happy to have him back, but as it stands, he couldn't and most likely never will.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eirajea

So Zach left? Were there any parting words and such? It is quite sudden, he seemed to enjoy learning here.... I didn't ever have anything against him or his posts, as you said, his comments made many think. I agreed with quite a few of his views, however at times the way he wrote them would be a bit harsh, as you probably saw me mention in the other boycott post. I don't always side with the "status quo", but I am not as quick to challenge it, as, from personal experience, that normally does not go as planned...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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You can find more details in the previous thread of the OP here http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1033614

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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Yes, his username was Zach1337. He had a picture of the Duolingo owl (from the Kindle app icon) as his profile picture.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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Too bad he's gone. I liked him. (Guess I never saw his other side.)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GrandApple
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Me as well.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnnieN82

Apology accepted! Im going to forget about everything and start over

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

Me too, thanks for not swearing at me in my post

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnnieN82

I don't (and can't) swear. Im only a child :P

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

That's really royal. That makes you much more honorable than a pottymouth.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnnieN82

Thank you :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Party_wolves9182

zach?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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No, that was Annie.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Party_wolves9182

oh...ok!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

Oh, man, people are still mad at me, look, my apologies are being downvoted.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hohenems
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I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty sure Zach now has 10+ different accounts and is downvoting anyone that disagreed with him.

Edit: To avoid confusion in case there was some, this is merely my impression based on events that transpired. I have no proof.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wataya
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Yep, that's exactly my impression, too. @Mats: don't worry. Everything is fine. And if people quit because they can't stand somebody disagreeing with them or others trying to keep a discussion civil, they're probably better off studying alone.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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He didn't give the impression, at least to me and from from his previous comments, that he is this type of person.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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I thought that's what might have been happening. He seemed to be downvoting me, and especially the moderators and kristen.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vifon_the_Dog
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You're taking the downvoting and all them remarks in the mentioned thread and all the other ones wery well. I'm happy that someone as patient as you are our moderator. :) Thanks!

5 years ago

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Nice to hear. :-)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Party_wolves9182

if he had 10+ accounts then he would have to have 10+ emails lol

5 years ago

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I unfortunately have amassed 7 email accounts.

  • A hotmail for personal friends and family
  • A gmail I share with my wife for e-billing, banking, and Google calendar
  • A gmail account that I don't mind losing which I use purely to sign up for garbage like facebook, kobo, news alerts etc...
  • An email at work
  • 2 email accounts from the 2 universities I'm taking online courses at
  • A default email account given by my internet provider
5 years ago

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I have about 20 :)

5 years ago

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One for each language you speak no doubt. ;-)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alba133

Don't worry. with every mistake there should come an apology, and with every apology there will come people who will not accept it. As for me, you now have a clean slate. P.S It takes guts to admit you're wrong, way to go

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

Thank you everyone for understanding, I think we (esp me) have learned a lot about how to not start fights in Duo.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LolcatGuy

I'm not really sure what this is supposed to be about :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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You are lucky that you don't. It wasn't pretty.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eirajea

It appears that AnnieNG8 has dissapeared suddenly as well. Thank you for you apology Mats. It, as many have said, takes alot of guts to post something like this or in some cases to even apologize at all.

5 years ago

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i don't know why she would do that.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eirajea

I don't either. She didn't mention anything about it.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

Oh, no! She didn't seem mad or anything, in fact, she was very kind.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/The4thDpro

AnnieN82 has deactivated her account :( I am 100% sure that the second post in this discussion is hers :( http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1032525

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LilPeterPan

NOO!! The4thDpro / 4thDimensionpro is gone!!!!!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Party_wolves9182

hes gone!?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Awesum_Domo

:O NOO!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LilPeterPan

Yes he is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS GONE!!!!!!!!!! D= And he left without even giving us a notice!!!!!!!!!!! D= R.I.P The4th D=

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Party_wolves9182

aww, he was my best friend!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Awesum_Domo

He was a good man

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eirajea

It is hers, but I still do not understand why it has been deleted. I have one possible reason, but it is not likely that it would happen.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Music4Ever15

It is OK

5 years ago

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