https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka

Color coding in the app! Check it out

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I just got the gender of a word wrong using the app. The next time the word came up it was underlined in pink (it was a female word). I think this is new. I like that the color coding is not on all the time, but only after you've made that specific error. Does Anyone else have it?

I also updated my app today.

edit At this point I am not entirely sure whether color-coding occurs only after errors or words for which the gender cannot be deduced from the rest of the sentence. Let me know what you think!

Also the animations at the end of the lessons have changed. it's pretty cool!

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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Both of these are tests that we're running with only a fraction of the users.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
FrankySka
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Hi Luis, What to you mean by "both of these"? Do you mean some users have color coding after errors and some have it when you cannot infer the gender from the rest of the sentence? Thanks Franky

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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I mean the grammatical gender coding and the change at the end of a lesson. Some users have one, some the other, and some have both -- like you :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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Thanks for your reply. Looks like I am double-lucky then :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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Same here! Is the "Your position this week" the only change at the end of the lesson?

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https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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Yep.

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https://www.duolingo.com/nighteyes

Are the notifications in the app (like if someone starting to follow me) also new?

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https://www.duolingo.com/GranuleSong
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Can we please have this on the website now?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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They already have a hover over on the website. it is a grey block that says "masculine" "feminine" "neuter" I prefer that for this website over pink and blue. Thankfully, I can (and just did) uninstall the app. I'm feeling sad and would feel worse if I actually ran into it. Thank you for the heads up FrankySka :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/arielk81
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I too would also prefer almost anything to pink/blue to indicate the gender of nouns. Sorry you're feeling sad!

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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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I know what you and arielk8 mean. For some reason I am ok with it, I guess because I have always learned gender in languages that way so I am just used to it. But I know how I react to color coding pretty much anything else like (probably what gets me most angry:) toys for children. As if there was such a thing as boys or girls toys....and what if a child identifies as either? aaarg. So while the color codes here do not bother me so much, I totally get what you are coming from. I yet have to decide whether I like the system - I am glad that the coding is kinda subtle and not there all the time to force me to still learn it,what I was most concerned about.

By the way when you say uninstall the app, do you mean completely get rid of it, or can you go to an earlier version? And what phone are you on? I would consider going two versions back to get back the possibility to practice entire skills!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/arielk81
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Yeah, it's nothing I would flip out over, since I know how tricky it can be to memorize the gender of nouns, and I understand that pink and blue might be the simplest/most universally understood color codes for gender. Just, ugh. But I'd get over it if it helped me learn a little faster!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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agreed.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

[sigh] No me gusta esta idea. :/ It's very alienating towards people. I would prefer something less related to human gender such as the stereotypical pink for girls and blue for boys and replace it with something less likely to offend people such as maybe having m for masculine and f for feminine or let us choose our own colors.

Edit: I'm not afraid of downvotes. I'm going to offer my own feedback in order to help make this site optimal for everybody. Come at me.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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This discussion has already taken place, in the other gender color thread. Suffice to say, it had no resolution. There's nothing offensive about a color, what causes the problem is the mindset of those who see it. If Gray is used for neuter (German), does that mean old people have no gender? As I said before, every color may have a negative meaning in someone's culture:

  • Color +ve meaning; -ve meaning
  • Green - ;nature,life ; envy, illness
  • blue ;calmness ; sadness, depression
  • red ;passion, fun; danger, evil

In fact, it seems that in Belgium pink is used for boys (http://changingminds.org/disciplines/communication/color_effect.htm), and some other color for girls. In other countries, pink or blue may have no link with gender at all. So now my question is, why should Duolingo (as a global website) only cater for the bias of specific cultures. If people have an issue with the use of color in their societies, then perhaps they need to start campaigns, and resolve it with their peers/community not with Duolingo.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnnieN82

Color coding?! AWESOME!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dincxjo
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I'm probably going to get down-voted for this but what the hell - I don't think this is a good idea, as it's reinforcing the idea that grammatical gender has anything to do with human gender. Gender is just a way of classifying nouns in different ways depending on their form and how they interact with other words in the language. And the idea of pink for a girl and blue for a boy seems overly outdated these days - that and it may not be universal in every country.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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We thought about this long and hard, and even user-tested it. Unfortunately, there are very few colors you can actually use for this and we ended up choosing what's best for learning, which is our goal.

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https://www.duolingo.com/dincxjo
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Fair dues. I suppose it can't hurt if it helps people remember. Thanks for your reply!

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https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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That is one thing I love about DL, there is a lot of thought and hard work put into this project. If I might suggest, if we could choose our own colors out of say a set of 5 or so, it could still be effective, and also less alienating for some folks (like myself). I know this might not be possible over all platforms, but, I would ask it for at least the main website (If DL already intends to change from the gray hover blocks. I personally don't mind the gray blocks.) ^_^

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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Thanks! I think we'll be keeping it as is on the website.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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That's unfortunate, is there any chance of any other visual aid/hint coming to the web?

Currently, as it stands, the gender hint doesn't always appear even after we get the answer wrong, we have to dig around the vocabulary to find out what gender it is. It is quite a headache to learn words and their genders as it stands.

Maybe some symbol on top of the word when it first appears, maybe a lion and a kangaroo, moon and sun. Borrowing from the nature metaphor the site already seems to use.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Thanks for letting us know, Franky!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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For me the color coding is always there, not just when I make a mistake. The little line of dots underneath the word is colored to match the gender word (Blue = masculine, pink = feminine).

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https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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Yeah, it's not that much different, it's just underlined in blue/pink. @FrankySka I don't see any different animation at the end of the lessons.

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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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I saw me and two other people from my leader board in a diagram showing where I ranked this week. Did you update the app? see luis comment above, not everyone has it

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https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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Oh, ok, then I only have the color coding for now. And I did update the app.

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https://www.duolingo.com/4of92000
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Like the idea!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/5618183112

it is color coded on my phone too

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https://www.duolingo.com/AshySweet

Oh! I get none!..... only a red underline for spelling error..

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LauraBroder

Oh cool! I saw the color coding, but didn't know what it meant. Very interesting!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/minilauren
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I have color coding, which has helped a lot in German. Damn 3 'genders' are too confusing sometimes.

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