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Incubator Updates!

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It's been one week since we started our first wave of courses and so far things are going great. Here are some updates:

Our mods have done an amazing job so far :)

  • English from Polish: 292 words completed
  • English from Russian: 417 words completed
  • English from Japanese: 79 words completed
  • English from Chinese: 152 words completed

On average each course is adding 31 words per day, of about 2k words needed for it to go to phase 2.

In the next day or two we'll start allowing mods to invite contributors to these courses. As with everything, we plan to start small to make sure we get it right. The plan is to add two contributors to each of the four courses in the first wave.

Finally, WE'LL BE ADDING THE NEXT WAVE OF NEW COURSES THIS WEEK :) They will be:

  • Learning English from Dutch
  • Learning English from Indonesian

To (language) infinity and beyond!

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/ndilekli

Luis, I am wondering if you have any short to medium term plans to expand existing courses? I am particularly interested in Spanish from English course to be expanded.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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We do have such plans. Possibly in a month or two.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/javiersfz

German from English also please! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/joe_graus

I could use more German lessons too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ndilekli

That is great to hear, thanks!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gorilla800lbs

English from Polish: 292 words completed

English from Russian: 417 words completed

English from Japanese: 79 words completed

English from Chinese: 152 words completed

Go Team Russian!!!! :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fkazuo
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Yay! Hoping to start learning Russian soon!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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It's not Russian for English speakers yet. It's English for Russian speakers.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fkazuo
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Oh. Too bad, for me, ofc. I was so excited that I didn't read it right. Thanks! Though I can still learn something from it! :p

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bigface

The creation of an english to russian class will be much easier and quicker to build when all the russian to english translations are finished.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RC_BR

Hmmm... Japanese is in the dance too! Fingers crossed so that next year we have the other way around: Japanese from English!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/buunny
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Hell yes!!!! I can't wait!!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Hi Luis, I see that English from German is very close to completion, which is exciting! What happens to a course in phase 2? Does it show up on the official part of Duolingo, or will it at first be exclusive to the incubator? Will it still require contributors? Just curious.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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That will be available to everybody as soon as it goes to phase 2 (but marked as "beta"). It's going to happen very soon :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nathansk8s
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Once theses courses are finished will it be easy to switch each of them around for English speakers to learn the language?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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Yes, this is how we plan to do it. From previous experience, that gets us about 50% of the way there from day 1.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nathansk8s
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Sehr cool :) thanks for the response Luey.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/edi68815

That's great. Loving the site and can't wait for the new additions. Any idea if Arabic or Turkish are on the horizon?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Hi Luis, a few questions: does this mean that once a course reaches beta, the reverse course will pretty much immediately begin being built, or will you wait until a certain time after most of the new courses have reached phase 2?

Or will you wait until the course has reached phase 3?

Will the reverse courses have the same moderators as the original, or will new ones be implemented so that the others can continue to moderate the X language to English courses?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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This will vary per course, depending on a number of factor such as how hard the reverse course is, etc. The moderators will also have a big say on this.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Alright, interesting. Thanks for the response!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alexandernext

Will it just be a lexicon for a language? Or is it only a two-way thing. For example, if I make a Chinese to English course, will Spanish speakers be able to learn Chinese?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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It is only a two-way thing. There is no automatic way to do Chinese from Spanish, having Chinese from English and English from Spanish.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jose_de_Arcos
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I believe this could be done if Duolingo decided to use the same pool of sentences in all the courses, that way you only need to switch the question for the answer and viceversa. It could boost things up.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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In the currently available languages, it's in majority the same pool of sentences that are used. But there are some difference for (at least) some idiomatic sentence.

But even if it's largely the same pool we currently can't learn spanish from French and reverse etc., so I don't see any reason why Duo would suddenly make it automatic...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alexalovesopera

um ya hi i was wondering if you guys would put the launguage czech on there

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Child, it will come. You must wait.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MikeGaribaldi

Luis, I'm a bit surprised by this. Shouldn’t phase 2 be a closed beta as opposed to an open beta? For each incubator language, if you gave access to 100 existing duolingoists (probably picked from the applicants that didn’t quite make the cut to work on that language in phase 1), and have them traverse the whole tree, you would be able to get the phase 1 contributors enough feedback to ensure that the tree would be very clean (though obviously not perfect) by the time it was given to the public. And it would also ensure that the higher levels of the tree get a thorough review.

It seems unnecessary to turn to mass crowdsourcing this early. You already have enough willing participants to make these new language trees extremely clean from the get go. By staying closed you'd also reduce the risk of the phase 1 contributors becoming massively overwhelmed with issues when tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands), start traversing the new tress.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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I agree. The tree should be first tested by testers who are familiar with Duolingo method and fluent in both languages, not by actual learners. Otherwise the discussions will get immediately cluttered with tons of complaints and questions that can be avoided with a thoughtful testing; moderators will get overwhelmed with reports; and the whole course may very likely get negative feedback.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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We won't put up anything in public beta before it's tested internally.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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This is how we've done it with all the other languages and it has worked pretty well.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MikeGaribaldi

Wait, I don’t understand what you mean. Once phase 1 for a given language is complete, you’ll have to do internal testing on a technical level (are new characters sets rendering correctly on iOS and Android, do new language specific screens look okay on different screen sizes, etc.), but why would you be doing any actual language testing? I thought the whole goal of the incubator program was to remove duolingo as the bottleneck in language creation and support (not counting the initial need for you to bring in new language character sets and implement new grammar concepts for the incubator itself).

For you to test the language internally, you need at least one person in-house to be fluent in both languages. Which also means that the language choices we have will always be limited by who you hire. But there's no need for that. You’ve likely already received dozens of requests by people fluent in both languages that wanted to build each language in phase 1. If you use them for testing (and mix in any staff you have that are fluent in both languages) before the language goes live, you’re bound to get better results, and you’ll never be limited by a lack of appropriate staff.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gymnastical
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is that why the Ukrainian course is not out yet?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alexandernext

That's what the Italian and Portuguese courses went through.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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Olimo for Russian contributor!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Thank you all for the kind words :-)

I would like very much to contribute, but I just can't allow myself to dive into this now. The main problem is my eyes. After a 8-hour work day at the computer I come home and here I am at the computer again. Recently, my eyes started to protest violently; this is most probably because I'm pregnant. And, knowing myself, I can imagine how hard it would be for me to take a break and have a rest if I start to work at something that exciting.

I'm sure Larisa and Roman are doing great, and soon there will be more contributors :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oskalingo
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Take care of yourself olimo!

4 years ago

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Then for the sake of your health and the health of you child, we should not invite you :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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I always feel like torn in two when I think about the Incubator >_<

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hohenems
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Can't contribute to incubator...too busy being an incubator.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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LOL

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/maryia77

I was wandering how can i contribute too? I am native Russian speaker too!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Apply in the Incubator: http://incubator.duolingo.com/

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/maryia77

Thanks! Already did!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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congrats on being pregnant! How many languages will olimo jr. grow up learning?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Thanks!

Well, my main concern about him learning languages is English. Other languages are not really needed in Russia unless you want to work in a field specifically connected with those languages or move to another country. English, however, is useful everywhere.

I doubt, though, that I'll be able to speak English with my son from his babyhood. I have not had regular speaking practice since I finished my English classroom studies - and that was about 10 years ago. I read, write or think in English without problems, but speaking is another thing. I would not want my child to acquire an awkward accent or anything unnatural. I'll definitely try something, though, like playing cartoons in English for him :-)

And of course, the most important thing is that he be healthy and happy!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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That sounds like a good plan :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chilvence
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Ahh nonsense, everyone loves a Russian accent :)

What I've always found much stranger is someone speaking with a forced American accent, when they're from the Phillipines or somewhere. That's just... uncomfortable... take pride in your local accent!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elen-ka
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Will there really be more contributors? And if so, when can we apply again?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rkuprov

Elena, I do not believe you'll need to reapply again. I am sure that we'll add quite a few more contributors as the course progresses. Selecting just the two out of 250+ was a difficult task. There were so many capable and motivated people that we had to pass. So, please, do not feel discouraged. Your motivation to help with the course is noted and remembered. As soon as we have the ability we'll call for your help.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elen-ka
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Thank you very much!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johnni0
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I think it would be more logical if the new contributors are picked from the people who already replied. At least I hope they will.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Erikman
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Congratulations Olimo! A Russian child growing up exposed to English and German (and any other languages he/she may be around)- It's scary how much of an opportunity he/she will have in this world!!!! (By 'scary,' I mean 'really amazing')

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Thanks! I answered about "exposed" to FrankySka above - living in Russia it's really hard to be around anything but Russian...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gymnastical
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hope you and your child are doing well

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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We are, thanks a lot :-)

3 years ago

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We would love to have her with us :)) But I heard she doesn't have enough time :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_pinkodoug_
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Did you hear that from her? She posted in the "Incubator is live" thread that she had applied to help with the Russian>English course. She is expecting, though, so things could have changed since she made that post.

4 years ago

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Whatever, as soon as we can, we will invite her, and it will be up to her to decide. We will be glad if she joins even if she can contribute only from time to time, because it doesn't matter, she is a great person and knows both languages extremely well.

4 years ago

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That's good to hear. I hope you didn't think I was being critical of you or that what I said came across harshly. I was just wanting to make sure that your info was from the source so to speak, and not potentially bad information.

4 years ago

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I didn't think anything negative :) I'm actually glad you shared your thoughts, that was useful information.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mbagnall
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Great progress, well done. Thanks for the regular updates!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DongerBanks

I'm amazed at how quick this is all starting to snowball. New people being added to help with the existing courses in development and new courses being added. At this rate, it'll be no time at all until there are a multitude of languages in various stages of development. Great work by everyone at Duolingo and many many thanks again for all of your hard work. A very many thanks, also, to all of the incubator contributers who so selflessly give their own time to add to this wonderful project.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DamedesLangues
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I second this! You're awesome!

4 years ago

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I'm wondering, it seems rather odd, that while there were thousands of applications, and you had to comb through so many applications there are still only 2 moderators for, Russian - English, Spanish - Portuguese, and German - English.

In addition, its a bit strange that one of the most spoken language(Hindi) in terms of population isn't in the shortlist of languages. I would guess that it is probably because they probably learn it as a second language in school.

I also think that maybe a new position could be made in the incubator. Perhaps this new position could be called Language Advisor, and maybe those harvard, and other linguistic experts can still help offering their vast experience and knowledge, on how best to structure and improve the language course.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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We're intentionally picking only 2-3 moderators because we think that's optimal.

As for Hindi: it's in our plans, but we're balancing a lot of different factors for the initial languages, such as our own internal knowledge of them.

4 years ago

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Does that mean only 2-3 people will be allowed to work on each course?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

Not necessarily. These mods will soon be able to pick their own contributors.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johnni0
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I'm also curious about that. All phase 1s have only 2-5 contributors. I can't believe so few people signed up, so it must be they only chose few people. But Luis talks about 'moderators'. As far as I can tell, the incubator only shows contributors, not moderators.

Luis, could you please explain more? Is it true what Gringacho is saying?

I'd love to be on the Dutch team, and hate to see that it's already full :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Luis: "We're intentionally picking only 2-3 moderators because we think that's optimal."

At the beginning there were only moderators (but they're only shown as contributors in the incubator) that create the classes. They started to add contributors recently.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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Hmm, this was obviously confusing on our end. The people you added were Contributors. So, you and Roman are the only mods.

4 years ago

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So far all the contributors are moderators. We haven't started adding other contributors yet. The people we've added this week are moderators as well and we chose them only from those who wanted to be a moderator.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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[Answer to Larisa_L's comment beginning with 'So far all the contributors"]

Thanks for the clarification.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sruthi_Ranjani

Yes, I would love to learn Hindi on Duo!Will it be coming soon?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/orangepeeler

Yes totally, it would be very cool right?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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I love how the course with the least contributors has the most progress! (Just means they've had the most time probably)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rkuprov

This is one of those few cases when being a single, unattached man is of a benefit to the society! :)

4 years ago

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I somehow mange to benefit the society being a married woman with a busy schedule :)))

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rkuprov

Which really makes you an amazing person! I put a crap-load of time into this and you're always right next to me! :)

4 years ago

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A bit behind you, but I try to keep up :)))

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Hear! Hear! -Internet high five-

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Levi
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Seems like it will be a while till we get around to the Hungarian course. Until then we'll look into these new ones once they're publicly available.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Ja de csak várnunk kell majd itt lesz! És az jobb, mint semmi! ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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Igen, remélem a következö hullámba bejut!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sessisie
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What is happening to the existing courses (German in my case) in the interim? There are still many problems in German, especially in the higher branches of the Skill Tree, and everything seems to be in limbo at the moment. Problems that were reported months ago are still not been corrected.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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We continue working on those!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StuffieStephie
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How y'all don't explode from all this work continues to amaze me O: I mean, I'm as impatient/excited as anyone but holy guacamole!

P.S. The amount of quality control on these courses is fantastic!! I was pretty worried about the incubator turning into a crazy free-for-all that might compromise DuoLingo's standard, but you guys really seem like you know how to go about this. Good luck with all that you do and we're all looking forward to it! :D

(PPS. Patiently waiting for Swedish but I need to finish the French and German trees first OTL)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oskalingo
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Very happy to see the Bahasa Indonesia course being developed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_language

As an Australian I am very aware of this vibrant, populous country to our north and have a lot of respect for its wonderful people. I am also aware that Indonesia has a very active and dynamic mobile phone ecosystem with rapid adoption of smartphones of late. This is partly because the level of home internet connections is quite low and so most people access it through their phone, with social media apps being extremely popular. Thus duolingo's development of their smartphone apps demonstrate their foresight in preparing for entry into markets such as Indonesia where free language learning is so much in demand and where people are rapidly acquiring the device which can provide the platform.

Some links:

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/michael.ka

Fantastic :) Keep up the great work everyone :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christine1999

Well done, I can imagine how much hard work it is, to have such a results!!! Keep doing good work DL! In my country we have a saying: "How many languages do you know, that many times you're a human!" I don't know if Americans, or other counties have something like that, but the point is the same- DL makes it happen. Thanks you, guys, you're awesome!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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What a wonderful saying! I've never heard anything like that, it is so true. Could you please write it in your language? I'll write it down.

By the way, in Russia there is a following anecdote: A foreigner comes to a village. There is a couple in front of their house. He asks them something in his language, but they do not understand. Then he tries another language he knows. No result. Then another one and another one, every language he knew, but the couple doesn't understand him and he leaves without any answer. Then the wife tells her husband: “If only you knew foreign languages, it would help”. For which the husband answers: “That guy knew many languages, did it help him?” :))

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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I find that funny, but the attitude behind it is a bit of a downer :P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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It is quite typical for Russians :) Still you see how we can be very enthusiastic about something, just look at our progress with the incubator.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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I'm glad Russian to English is going so fast - makes me hope English to Russian will come fast afterwards, because I'd love to learn Russian! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rkuprov

Learning Russian is a whole different beast altogether. I wouldn't feel qualified constructing that course. Whoever will be making that course will have to be just outstanding with the language! Any native speaker will almost always not be enough.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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@evilmeow: Thanks! I'm sure I will love it. I think the language sounds amazing, and I am the weirdo who likes learning grammar and seeing the differences in how other languages function, so the challenge only excites me. :D The only problem is fitting in all of the languages that I want to learn! :P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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@rkuprov: I'm so excited for when it eventually does come. I've already dabbled a little, but only slightly (concentrating on German for now). I love the Russian alphabet too, looks great! I've learned that and some phrases, but I have barely touched grammar. I really like Slavic languages in general.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gorilla800lbs

Man, I would love to be able to contribute to English -> Russian effort...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/evilmeow

@rkuprov: I agree! I'm so glad I got to "absorb" Russian as a kid effortlessly. My Russian is at a child's level, and when I took a university course I was almost overwhelmed with how many rules there are. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to those who start learning the language with no prior experience with it. But anyways, @idshanks I hope you'll be able to learn and have fun with it! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/negyvenketto

We have the same anecdote in Hungary, but with two policemen instead of the couple... :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christine1999

@Larisa_L: "Koľko jazykov vieš, toľkokrát si človek" - in Slovak, my language. By the way, I love your Russian anecdote, but it's a little bit dry humor. Remembers me English's little bit ;). Is it also typical for Russians?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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I believe I saw the same joke in English somewhere. Maybe it is not of Russian origin at all.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christine1999

Maybe...;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Goran12
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Kolik jazyků znáš, tolikrát jsi člověkem.

That's in Czech, but Slovak is very similar.

4 years ago

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Thanks, I'll write this one down as well :) I love proverbs. However, when I studied at Harvard and tried to use English proverbs in my essays, I was always scolded "for using cliches" as they said :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DamedesLangues
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Humble brag! Harvard, I'm impressed ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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:)) At least I can assure you that I didn't mention Harvard when I applied to become a moderator for the Russian course.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DamedesLangues
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Never apologise for your achievements! You ought to be proud of going there and appreciate whatever doors that may open for you. I genuinely never meant it as an offence, and I wholeheartedly appreciate the work you and your fellow contributor are doing for the benefit of us all.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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DamedesLangues, I'm not apologizing. But it is considered indecent to use the name of Harvard (to drop the H-bomb as we call it) to achieve something. The name is so powerful, it sometimes give you advantages too easily, even when you have no actual merits. I do use it in my career, of course, because it is related to the matter, it shows my education and dedication. However in this case at Duolingo, it doesn't shoe that I'm anyhow more suitable for the moderator position than anyone else. That is why I didn't mention it. What I mentioned is that I was a Language Coordinator on the TED Talks Translation project. I volunteered there for 3 years, did a lot of work and left some legacy, and that is closely related to what we're doing here.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christine1999

Yes, exactly, I meant that saying (aj keď do angličtiny som to preložila dosť biedne ;)).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vedun
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Awesome! It's so exciting. Things are really starting to get developed fast.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nighteyes

I'm patiently waiting for English->Hebrew, I know it will help to a lot of people here (in Israel), especially students who need the practice. I really hope to help on that one.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/strages
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english from dutch! damn nice! i'll be happy to help!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/katm201

I'd love Dutch for English speakers. I took a couple semesters in college and would love to relearn one of these years.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Selcen_Ozturk
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but actually who needs to learn English from Dutch? I have not seen any Dutch person who is not fluent in English :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Even if there aren't any, this course will be later used as a base for the reverse course of Dutch from English ;-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/strages
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haha i take that as a compliment! But i think this will help children in a big way, even if they will learn it from their gameboy (as i did) and this will make for less going to grown ups to ask for translations XD

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Selcen_Ozturk
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it is true, and yes you can take it as a compliment, too :) so after duolingo course is released, we can even communicate with kids in Netherlands in English, great :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

I understand gradually adding mods, but what's the point of holding off adding new languages? I don't see how that would affect the quality of the courses.

Edit: Downvoting really? It would be more productive to help explain why you disagree because I'm sure many others have the same questions.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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Because there are so many questions we ask, there only so many people on duolingo, to answer them. There are so many technical challenges to overcome, it takes time. You need to choose mods for each language - it's not easy. And so on and so on. It's all only looks easy. Someone has to support each and every language. What is the point to create a language, where there are no contributors and not support? In that case you can imagine that they are already created, just not being developed.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

Thanks for your response Larisa. It's especially helpful coming from you since you've seen the inside of the incubator. I didn't think this was a problem because the mods should know their own language very well, but I didn't take into consideration that these mods would have lots of questions with the technical stuff on duolingo. And seeing how there's only a select few people who can answer these questions, I can see how this would be an issue.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Hurrah!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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excellent, czekam, to bede bardzo dobrze...dziekuje

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/akhansson
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Howdy Jackelliot. :) Excellent comment. I see that you already know some Polish. But let me point out a minor grammatical mistake. Będę is only used when talking about yourself.

Here are some examples: "Ja będę" = I will / I will be

"Ty będziesz" = You will (2nd person) / You will be

"To będzie" = It will / It will be

"My będziemy" = We will / We will be ...

In this case będę should be changed to "będzie" which means "it will". "To będzie bardzo dobrze..." = It will be very good

Good luck with your Polish. Polish grammar isn't easy. Ask me anytime you need any help. Take care. Cheers!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/underwood.jones
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I for one am waiting on tenterhooks for the "Polish for English Speakers" course! :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Dutch -> English is out!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/john828

Can you let us learn Hungarian from English. PLEASE.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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We've been over this. It will come later.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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As soon as they start accepting people for that, I'll be working on it :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Nem fogok aludni! Mindig fent leszek :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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:) Szeretnéd hogy kijavítsunk, amikor hibázol? Csak mondom, hogy inkább úgy jobb, ha úgy mondod hogy "mindig fent leszek."

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Na az jó lenne, jobban beszélsz mint én lol

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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Hát igen, ez az anyanyelvem :) *Jobban :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tapitapeh

yeah Indonesian! :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nik2311
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i'm thrilled with the site and so pleased that I chanced upon it. It gives a wonderful grounding in the chosen language. I completed the Spanish tree upon which I embarked just a few weeks back and am now on the German tree. I am greatly looking forward to Russian, Chinese, Turkish and Arabic of which I have some knowledge but would like to get back to basics. Duolingo is a wonderful concept.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jason375
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In Japanese and Chinese, are they going to have a separate tree for the characters, or are the characters within the other lessons

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Writingsuus

Nice. I wonder if I'll be invited as a mod for the Learning English from Dutch course :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ebata

good luck

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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I hope the Japanese mods are ok. I've noticed they haven't been around this last week. :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AruneD
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I applied a couple of days ago, hopefully they'll let me help out. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8
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Hmm... So far everything seems to be learning English from other languages. How far down the line is the reverse planned? Learning Russian from English would be pretty cool, after all.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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If you looked into the Incubator (http://incubator.duolingo.com/, the link is right on the main Discussion page) and opened the drop-down list of languages that can be taught, you'd see "More languages will be available for teaching later this year".

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ckyle8
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Thanks, I didn't notice that on the drop-down list. Later this year, huh? That's faster than I figured! After all, there's not much of a year left!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnonToriYT

I hope soon ,there will be Irish gael , swedish ,arabic,and many other lingo' in the future :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BobbieL
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If you ever want to write a blog post or something sharing more insight into the program, I'd be curious to hear about the decision-making progress on whether to put together entire language courses at once, or to start small and build from there.

By this I mean, in theory you could start out moving the first 100 words (arbitrary number, insert whatever there) from the "English from Russian" course into beta and have people start playing with it and learning from it early.

I can see advantages to both possibly just moving a few lessons within a language through beta at a time, and trying to move the whole course through at once. I don't think either is clearly a superior choice, so I think it'd be interesting to hear more about how the Duolingo team made the call on which way to go with it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Maxwellywell

Dutch lessons! And then I thought the German lessons were taking up my time.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Skybreak48

If you're going to be doing a course for Tagalog (Filipino), please contact me. I'm willing to help. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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You can apply here: http://incubator.duolingo.com/.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Skybreak48

Thank you! :) I already did. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mojo_ca
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Would love to get an inside look as to how the Incubator works. Its like Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory, and only translators have a golden ticket

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/okmedo

Hello Luis, how about Slovenian language?? Im interested in contributing in my native language, so the question is how many people do you need to open the course in this language?? Cheers!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Apparently 2-3: "We're intentionally picking only 2-3 moderators because we think that's optimal.".

But even if they probably already have 2 or 3 for a lot of languages, they add new languages to incubator on a prudent rate to control it/improve it on the road etc...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AFlecker
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Will there be any sort of preference for languages that are considered dialects, for example, Siciliana and Nnapulitano? I guess what I'm asking is, will they be considered languages and can they have the opportunity to be added? Thanks and keep up the great work!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mitchell_MT
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When would we have more courses that go __ for English speakers?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LEGEND
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Bahasa Indonesia sangat baik!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andro0
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i was wondering how you choose the new languages to add? indonesian? come on hindi!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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The team chooses right now. They said they will be adding a few more languages this week, they are listed here http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1043526. And one of them is English from Indonesian!

(Indonesian from English will be aded later)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mu19_3
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Hi Luis, what about Italian, German, French from Spanish? Do you have plans for those languages? Saludos Chapin, de un Catracho

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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Yes, those will come soon too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Beachiano

Luis & DuoLingo-Team, thank you so much!! Wow, I'm excited!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gladguy
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These new language programs sound really cool. It is great to get new languages involved!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/suezq
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Waiting for Learning Swedish from English. Meanwhile still plodding on with the Spanish. Thanks Duolingo!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/007noob007

luis, i have a question- when let say "english from japanese" will be complete, will it not be able to transfer it to "japanese from english" faster? please do answer :) (and thank you very much for all of your work!)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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See Luis' answer to nathansk8s.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chrisdanlarsson

Chinese from English?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/buunny
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Besides the languages already in the incubator, are you guys adding anymore? Not including Dutch and Indonesian and not including languages that you hope to put into the incubator in the future, but languages that you will add in the immediate future.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MThoriqMalano
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Yeay English from Indonesian! I'd love to be one of the contributors ;3 (since Indonesian is my native language so)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/john828

I really do not understand how the incubator works. Can someone please explain it to me?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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It is a tool that allows users that are fluent in both languages A and B to create courses to teach language A from language B or B from A. It is being tested on a small scale right now with only a limited number of courses and contributors, though it is being slowly expanded. For more info: http://www.duolingo.com/comment/931353.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Goran12
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There was recently a report on progress of English for Polish team. The impression was that they are the number one, but now we find the English for Russion team have done more.

Should I understand it that the Polish team have done more in the first few days, but they were overtaken, or that the Russian team is more focusing on words but Polish team on other things (i.e. that they build skills as soon as they have the words translated, instead of translating all words first)?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rkuprov

It's not a competition anyway. So long as we're getting quality courses out in a timely manner the goal is accomplished. :)

4 years ago

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I think we were ahead of the Polish team almost all the time. You had the opposite impression because you saw our results from the first couple of days, and then Polish results from a later time frame, at that point we were further as well. I checked what they are doing in their section, and it seems that they do pretty much the same as we do. So, I would say that the difference has no other explanation, but that we spend more time translating. And here I should say that all teams are doing really great. There is so much work, Roman and me we were just working like crazy day and night :))) Not everyone has time for that. I even had to buy an ergonomic keyboard, because my left hand is hurt, now it should go better. And the more you translate, the faster you do it, so we gained some momentum here. In any case, the first days were slow for everyone, there were technical issues to fix, some technical improvements to implement, some things for mods to agree upon with each other and so on. We rewrote some sentences several times, and we will be rewriting many things in the future. There is a lot of tedious work, not every human would be even able to do that, for some people it would be just too boring. Still, I cannot believe it has been only one week, seems like a month to me :)))

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Erven.R

Still waiting...I applied for - Leaning English from Tagalog (Filipino)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sjoerdje74

Just wondering: if for instance English from Dutch is completed, does that also mean that Dutch from English is complete too?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DamedesLangues
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If you scroll up, you can see Luis' response to this vary question ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sigmacharding
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Absolument incroyable!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iammykola

Want to join your team with my gf (Vladi88). English for russian/ukrainian speakers, German for russian/ukrainian speakers, Spanish for russian/ukrainian speakers. We want to help you in translating the whole service and to synchronize it with vkontakte.ru social network.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iammykola

Why vote down?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/olimo
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Maybe because you can apply in the Incubator itself and there is no need to try and do it in discussion. (Just my guess, I didn't downvote you.)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iammykola

Oh, ok :] Thx for your reply ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MegaTeck

What about Arabic?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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I'm interested to learn when there will be cross-language courses available, like Spanish from German. Are they in the works, too?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LynneSt
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I'd be very interested in this too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hannekest

I am very excited to see how many shortcuts I can get for the English course in Dutch, and I will recommend it to my sister, who is just starting to learn English.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AmineK
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when you'll add the English from Arabic , i gave you my letter a month ago!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MatthiasSchmitz

Are there any plans for a new "Learning langauge from English"

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/widyastaman

I am very excited with this. Can't wait to help.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dexter6

Hey Guys, I think it would be a good idea to make it possible to subscribe for incubator updates! I mean, my Dad speaks Russian, willing to learn English, thus he would like to have a notification asap it's available. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoseLopezUribe

Hi Luis! In the past i saw that the Portuguese-Spanish bar was more completed and now i check it again to see the progress and has less than before. What happened? And btw, when is going to be ready the course?(at least the month and not "soon"). Thanks

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RorySparshott

Any chance of any more languages for us English bods? I have a Dutch girlfriend, and adore Turkey, and both Chinese and Hindi will probably be useful some day... PLEASE! :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iammykola

Hey guys, what about Polish?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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"English from Polish: 292 words completed"

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iammykola

Man, it's English from Polish, I meant what about Polish from English

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Oh, well, a little look to the "Top All time" tab of the general forum (and scroll down very little) -> http://www.duolingo.com/comment/931353: "And before the end of the year, it will be possible to create courses in all combinations of languages."

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iammykola

Why so angry? :]

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Not at all. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RC_BR

Hope someday they offer Esperanto! ^^

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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If you know some people knowing it, ask them to come here and contribute ! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RC_BR

Unfortunately I don't know anyone right now, but I am confident that sooner or later someone will show up! ;-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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And maybe already did! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LynneSt
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Is there any chance of a course such as French from Spanish? I would love to try moving between two languages, rather from my mother tongue (English). Nothing like a real challenge!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Yes, as all combinations of language. See http://www.duolingo.com/comment/931353

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LynneSt
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Brilliant - I look forward to the new challenges!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/widyastaman

Will the incubator add more contributors?

4 years ago