Russian is at 99%
Cheer for Russian!!!!
Yes!!! I better go and buy that Russian keyboard that I have been admiring at a shop window.
It is a really good idea to learn to touch type the Russian Cyrillic alphabet before you start the course.
Russian keyboards are very nice. But you can learn to type in the Cyrillic alphabet(s) without one. This application looks like it will teach you very well, and there are many online sites that will teach it, also, or you don't even need those but can simply use some text editor on your computer.
Learning to type in some Cyrillic alphabet has been discussed several times here. Search the forums, or if you are interested but can't find some of the discussions, ask and I'll try to hunt up links for you.
Most of us already have a Russian keyboard on our computers.
On Windows go to: ControlPanel > LanguageOptions > KeyboardsLanguages > ChangeKeyboards > Add > Russian > Keyboard > Russian, Russian(Typewriter), US, ShowMore. Then select 'Russian', 'OK', and you're done.
LearnRussian.rt has complete instructions with pictures - http://learnrussian.rt.com/speak-russian/how-install-cyrillic-keyboard-windows-vista
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I use my keyboard for both English and Spanish frequently, so I used a paint pen to write the Spanish differences on the corner of the keys. It only took me a couple of days to get used to switching back and forth. Before I painted them on I had just written on pieces of tape and stuck them on. This wouldn't help someone working on 5 languages, but it works great for me!
I know it's a keyboard layout. The instructions I gave show you how to add multiple layouts to one physical keyboard. I'm not sure what your point is?
The Operating System is a program. The keyboard that I said is in our Operating System is a program too. When you "add" a keyboard through the Windows Control Panel, you change the layout of your existing keyboard so that it works for the added language. Currently I use the keyboard on my laptop to type for English plus European Accents (Spanish, Italian, Portuguese), and Russian. It's one keyboard but it acts like 3 keyboards.
Do you have access to a Windows PC? Follow my directions and you'll see how to add a keyboard for any language. Add the keyboard for English-US-International and you'll be able to type accents for Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, etc.
I also have Russian and QWERTY+"European Accents" layouts in my OS. The point is that you can have any number of layouts set in the OS, but you still have to get used to those ones you don't know. I don't think that some screen keyboard app can really teach you to use another layout, so you have to get a physical keyboard labeled with the target layout, or to use special sticker set, as @Treissi said somewhere in this discussion.
OK, I understand now. I learned the accents by saving an image of the layout and memorizing them, and it's easy to touch-type them now. I figure I'll do the same with Russian -- save an image and use it to memorize the layout. I don't look at the keys when typing English and I don't plan on looking at them when typing Russian either. But I can see how labeling the keys could be useful.
Yeah stickers are very convenient and allow me to have the English characters there too
I just downloaded a phonetic keyboard. It's pretty comfortable to use, I don't think I will encounter that many 'real' russian keyboards in my life...
... Or not. It wouldn't be the first time a course stills at 99% for a few weeks, in order to polish everything before launching it. Which is not so bad, because it's always a bit less work for the team for when the hundreds of reports arrive...
Really, guys, we don't even have info on when the TTS is going to become available.
Thanks, people are just impatient. I can wait (going on vacation in a few days).
I don't think the month's stillness necessarily starts at 99%. With Russian having been above 97 for a month and a half, and 2-3 weeks above 98, I think it's reasonable to expect to see it in beta during September.
Many sit at 99 or 100% for weeks or months while they finalize the course. The progress bar doesn't take everything into account unfortunately. But the extra time pays off as the quality of the incubator courses proves :D
What I was saying was, since not that many courses have stalled before 99%, maybe the Russian stall at 97 was the beginning of their finalisation phase. If so, they would have been putting finishing touches to their course for a month and a half and the 99% stall won't be that long.
That's kind of proving my point. One main reason why Esperanto and Ukrainian stood so long at 100% was that they didn't have their voice ready. Since Russian has taken care of theirs during this 97% stall, they are unlikely to spend that long at 100%.
Part of the stall for Russian has been the implementation of spoken language. I believe the problem has been integrating the system into the Duolingo site. So, the stall is a technical issue, rather than one relating to language development.
Not sure if you've noticed, but there is a recent post by the team on the incubator page saying that it will be finished "in a few weeks", so that's a week or so from now :)
They know what voice they want to use, I don't think it's been 'taken care of' particularly; I don't actually know what the technical issue is, but I'm pretty sure they're still waiting on implementation. They don't have to have a voice artist record the sentences, but they do have to wait for whatever technical issues are being solved behind the scenes.
I agree. I'd rather they take their time and get it as right as possible before releasing it. Good things are worth waiting for.
The last few languages to be released in Beta hung out at 100% for about 6 to 8 weeks before they actually were released.
That's fantastic! Thanks so much Russian team. We can expect to see the course in the next 3 or 4 weeks! I'm on the edge of my seat waiting!!!
The last update on the Incubator page was made two weeks ago, and it said that Russian would probably be finished within the next few weeks. So it's quite likely that it'll be out before the end of September. I certainly hope so! :)
I've been refreshing the incubator page almost daily for months! Can't wait.
It was October 2nd a few days ago :/.
This course probably takes the cake for being the most delayed course ever. Someone doesn't want us understanding Putin lol.
With all this anti-Russia propaganda, no one wants us knowing the truth!
No, I did not expect it to reach 101%. I was merely reporting to people that it's been at 99% for a while. Some people keep saying "it will be done by Aug 28", then "Sep 24", and so on. They seem to think the launch date is definite, and my point is that there /is/ no definite launch date.
By the way, I'm glad that the Russian course is not being rushed. I'm glad that it is taking a long time to complete because this way it gets more attention to the details and there will be few mistakes. Thanks for putting this course together!
it's got back to 98% right now. :0 it's getting better than Windows percentage :D