Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from September 6th to September 13th
The last sprint
The French for Italian team has put in more oomph in the final sprint and made a wild dash almost all the way to the finishing line to end up on the top. They are the leader Extraordinaire for this week, and the also lead the chart in terms of the progress achieved. Well done!
Thought for the week
At least one course very likely to hatch in the coming week!
PHASE 1 Progress: Total 25 courses
French for Italian - 71% | 72% | 83% | 100% (+17) *
German for French - 98% | 99% | 98% | 99% (+1)
Russian for English - 97% | 98% | 98% | 99% (+1)
German for Portuguese - 95% | 96% | 97% | 99% (+2)
German for Turkish - 89% | 90% | 91% | 93% (+2)
English for Thai - 91% | 91% | 90% | 90% (+0)
Hungarian for English - 80% | 80% | 80% | 80% (+0) ^
Spanish for Russian - 74% | 76% | 77% | 79% (+2)
Polish for English - 57% | 66% | 70% | 78% (+8)
German for Italian - 71% | 71% | 71% | 71% (+0)
Spanish for Italian - 62% | 62% | 62% | 63% (+1)
Catalan for Spanish - 37% | 46% | 54% | 61% (+7)
Vietnamese for English - 54% | 54% | 54% | 55% (+1)
Swedish for Russian - 50% | 52% | 52% | 52% (+0)
Hebrew for English - 43% | 45% | 50% | 52% (+2)
Romanian for English - 39% | 40% | 40% | 40% (+0)
Greek for English - 33% | 33% | 33% | 34% (+1)
Spanish for Chinese - 54% | 26% | 26% | 31% (+5)
Hindi for English - 18% | 20% | 20% | 20% (+0) ^
Italian for Portuguese - 10% | 12% | 16% | 19% (+3)
Portuguese for French - 14% | 16% | 17% | 18% (+1)
Klingon for English - 15% | 16% | 16% | 18% (+2)
Czech for English - 8% | 8% | 9% | 9% (+0) ^
Yiddish for English - 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% (+0)
French for Chinese - 40% | 5% | 5% | 5% (+0)
Mean - 2.04% | 1.42% | 1.4% | 2.24% (+0.84)
Median - 1% | 1% | 0% | 1% (+1)
* This week's Leader Extraordinaire!
^ The Hungarian, Hindi, & Czech teams' progress is as per their own calculation
Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
Officially 335 words. Still 9 percent done.
Après des mois de travail, nous entrons dans la dernière phase avant la publication en mode béta. Nous devons vérifier si tout est en ordre, éliminer les traductions fausses et ajouter celles que nous avons oubliées. Le résultat de cet effort ne sera certainement pas parfait, mais acceptable pour que vous puissiez finalement démarrer votre nouveau cours d’Allemand. On s’est donné environ une semaine pour accomplir cette tâche. Merci pour votre patience.
Superada la barrera del 50%
Estamos contentos, porque llevamos varias semanas seguidas entre los equipos que más avanzan. Hemos superado la barrera psicológica del 50% y ya nos queda menos de la mitad. Por otro lado, somos conscientes de algunos sesgos del equipo actual. Por ejemplo, el sector femenino se halla infrarepresentado. Además, hasta ahora nos hemos centrado en el catalán central y a partir de ahora queremos que haya otras variedades dialectales (que son todas igualmente válidas) representadas en el curso. Por ello, estamos a punto de ampliar el equipo. La cifra de 6500 personas que ya se han apuntado al curso nos da un poco de vértigo, pero también nos motiva y nos recuerda la responsabilidad de estar a la altura de las expectativas que hemos creado.
Uzun süredir beklenen Türkçe-Almanca kursu artık %92'de! Az kaldı ancak hala yapılması gerekenler var. Bu nedenle kesin bir tarihimiz yok. İlginiz için de çok teşekkürler! Gelişmeleri buradan takip edin!
O "Beta" se aproxima
PORTUGUÊS: Oi, galera. Passada rápida aqui pra dizer que a versão Beta do curso de alemão para lusófonos está para sair. Estamos só aguardando o OK do Duolingo! Contamos com a ajuda de todos vocês para divulgar o curso e nos mandar bastante feedback sempre que sentirem que algo está errado ou faltando. O curso ainda não está perfeito mas com a ajuda de todos vamos chegar lá. To be continued...
DEUTSCH: Hallo, ihr lieben, ich wollte nur euch mal schnell sagen, dass wir bald den Beta-Modus von unserem Deutschkurs für Portugiesisch Sprechende los legen werden. Wir warten nur auf ein „OK“ vom Duolingo-Team. Wir zählen auf euch um uns viel Feedback zu schicken immer wenn ihr denkt, dass etwas falsch ist oder fehlt. Der Kurs ist nicht perfekt aber mit eurer Hilfe werden wir es gemeinsam schaffen. To be continued…
Progress Update #6
It's my pleasure to announce that we have reached the 75% mark. About a half year ago the Incubator estimated that this should happen somewhere around 2018, so we made it on time - nice, isn't it? You may have noticed that the holidays were a really busy time for our course and we kept a nice pace, making around 30% of progress in last two months.
Speaking of progress, we have finished introducing past tense, imperative forms, reflexive verbs, comparative adjectives and some decent vocabulary. Meanwhile, we tweaked our tree a bit, moving a few lessons around here and there. The tree is slowly getting its final shape, but we may still need to add or remove a skill or two. Coming up are comparative adverbs, more vocabulary and - finally - the skill featuring future tense.
Oh, and did I mention that we have started working on Tips & Notes? This does not count towards the estimated progress (unfortunately), but it has to be done anyway. We plan to use T to cover some of the aspects like pronunciation and declension, and give you some rules of thumb, especially in the very first lessons.
By the way, a lot of you were curious about 13 forms of the ate word we had wrote about in the last Progress Update. Actually, a two-digit number of forms is not uncommon in Polish. Another example is number two, which exists in 17 different forms in Polish, each commonly used in spoken and written language and each of slightly different meaning, depending on the gender and the case. Two of them even have second variant, making the total number of 19 words. Check them out (note difference between o and ó - these are completely different vowels):
dwa, dwie, dwoje, dwóch (or dwu), dwaj, dwiema, dwom (or dwóm), dwoma, dwojga, dwojgu, dwojgiem, dwójka, dwójki, dwójkę, dwójką, dwójce, dwójko
You may try to guess how many forms there would be if we also counted all the ways of saying second, double or pair. These are not included in the list above.
So you see, the journey through the Polish language will be full of fun.
From time to time we are asked about the beta release date. It's still too soon to give you even rough estimations. The summer break is almost over for us, we are probably going to slow down a bit. There is still a great amount of work to do, still a few gramatical concepts to introduce. We will share the estimated release date as soon as we know it, you can be sure about that.
As always, thank you all for your fantastic support. We love to see your feedback!
Piątka! (High five!)
Week 14: 20% complete, beta launch 24-Dec-2015
We are predicting a slight postponement of the beta launch. But I expect we will soon make up the lost time. Please stay tuned.
TL;DR One course at 100% and three at 99%. One of these courses is bound to hatch this week. Won't you agree?
p.s.: I am quite enjoying my time in India. So far I have been to a few cities including Delhi and Mumbai. Have had a great time with family and friends, and eating superly duperly delicious food! What more can one ask for? ;)
The next update is expected on Sunday, 20th of September at 11:00 pm UTC delayed once again due to travel.
Previous Update 30-Aug to 6-Sep
Hooray Jiten for still bringing us an Incubator Update even though he's in India right now!
Excited for the (eventual) prospect of Welsh-for-English and German-for-Arabic in the weeks to come. Yiddish just added a new contributor, so we should be seeing progress there as well.
That's so exciting! There might be a Swedish for Arabic, too, I heard. Looking forward to Welsh, and glad to hear that Yiddish is gonna be moving again.
Amazing progress, team Polish! It's so exciting to see such large percentage jumps every few days.
You're the ones hard at work, thank you!
Dziękuję bardzo! Nie mogę się doczekać.
So much inside me about Russian. Waiting for it since it came out in the incubator and is at 99%. I can't wait.
The travel and jet-lag has got the better of my planning skills :)
I am back in the US and will write later today. Please visit the forum after 10 hours. Apologies for the delay!
Abenhakan from the Hungarian team made a quick comment about the state of the tree few days ago; you can find it in his activity stream.
Thanks for the heads up. If they post the update on their incubator course page, I will be happy to include it in the WIU. That is the only place I pick up the updates from.
I sincerely hope that we will see the introduction of the German for Arabic speakers and Swedish for Arabic speakers courses very soon. Thanks again, jitengore, for your invaluable work with these weekly updates. Enjoy your time in India!
.......especially considering the rapid progress of Polish. Not too long ago Polish and Romanian were about level, but now Polish is ahead by a country mile!
I cant wait for German for French and Russian for English. Thanks to all the contributors.
Here what the DE - Fr update says :
After months of work, we enter in the last stage before beta. We need to check if everything is in order, eliminate false translations and add the ones we forgot. The result of this effort will probably not be perfect, but enough for you to start your new German course. We gave ourselves around one week to accomplish this task. Thanks for your patience.
So we will see a course entering in the Beta phase next week ! Great news !
Thanks for translating, KozmoW! Had I taken the time to read each update closely, I would have known about this team's expectation and then there was no need to "predict" about the impending hatching!
In my defense. I will just say that I am out of time! :)
I really don't understand why the Polish team decided to take the direction of scaring others with their language. Like, it's not the first time I see similar updates from them. But anyway, for all of you who are interested in their forms of number 2:
2 as number 2: dwa (non-pers. masc. and neuter Nom., Acc. and Voc.), dwie (fem. Nom., Acc. and Voc.), dwóch (pers. masc. Nom., Acc. and Voc., for all genders Gen. and Loc.) (I really have no idea what dwu is though), dwaj (optional pers. masc. Nom., dwóch can be used instead), dwiema (optional fem. Inst., dwoma can be used instead), dwóm (Dat.) (again, don't know what dwom is), dwoma (Inst.).
2 as a collective number (used for people of mixed sex, infants, young animals and pluralia tantum nouns): dwoje (Nom., Acc., Voc.), dwojga (Gen.), dwojgu (Dat., Loc.), dwojgiem (Inst.).
2 as a digit: dwójka (Nom. sing.), dwójki (Gen. sing., Nom., Acc., Voc. pl.), dwójkę (Acc. sing.), dwójką (Inst. sing.), dwójce (Dat., Loc. sing.), dwójko (Voc. sing.). Judging by their logic, you can also add plurals: dwójek (Gen. pl.), dwójkom (Dat. pl.), dwójkami (Inst. pl.), dwójkach (Loc. pl.).
By the way, o and ó are not that different vowels. Yes, in modern Polish o is [ɔ] and ó is [u], but historically ó has been a long o which has shifted to long u (just like Czech ů or... surprise, surprise! English oo as in book). You're probably gonna have plenty of troubles with them while learning Polish though. The same thing applies to ę and ą (historical short and long nasal vowel). Though, IMHO, Czech is way harder with this stuff because it still has long vowels, while Polish doesn't. And in fact, pretty much any Slavic language can brag about the same amount of forms for the number 2. I don't mean to say anything bad about Polish, it's a really cool language, but I just try to make it look less scary for all of you. ;)
I don't think we're trying to scare you, we're just trying to make our progress updates a bit more interesting by throwing some fun facts here and there :)
I'm sorry if my reply seemed a bit hostile, as I stated, I really like Polish language and am waiting for it to be released. :) But when I saw your previous update with all that Past tense stuff I thought "Wow! Poor people waiting for Polish! They've already probably read some scary stories describing how hard Polish is, and here are contributors who make it seem even scarier". So now I decided to make an explanation about dwójka's to make people a bit calmer. Not sure if it was successful or not though. :P
This language learning is not for sissies! I think if anyone is scared, that will motivate them even more, haha! I just tried the Turkish basics - WHOA!
People should be honest about how much "fun" in their languages :-) We should know what we're letting ourselves in for!
Sorry. :) Polish is not an easy language, though it definitely is fun. If you have much enthusiasm to dive into its grammar, you're probably going to find it very enjoyable and rewarding in the end. ;)
Don't forget that it's still Duolingo – there will be hints, Tips & Notes and discussion forums for the Polish course. And we'll be there to help you out if anything seems unclear or too difficult.
What raspberry-shake tried to say is that the forms listed are actually forms of three different words (which each have their own entries in the dictionary). It is like mixing together zero, null and none, adding "oh" (three point oh five five oh six), too.
So it is not all that scary.
It's actually a very common form: dwaj koledzy - two friends, dwaj policjanci - two policemen etc.
Hello, false friends. I thought that "koledzy" means "wells", "колодцы" in Russian :'D
Yay French for Italian team! You've made fantastic progress in the last few weeks, thanks for all your hard work.
I was hoping to finish the Italian for French tree before French for Italian came out, but I think you are going to beat me to it. :D
And go Russian! I've learned the alphabet and I'm raring to go.
Eeeep! Your progress is incredible Team Polish! It seems like every single day the number keeps creeping higher :D
Take your time while you're traveling -- you're still amazing for bringing these to us every week, even if they're late. Thanks!
In the other news, Vietnamese finally makes some progress, as do Klingon and Greek and Spanish for Chinese. :)
Family, food and fun for jitengore and still time for the WIU! You are awesome! बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद। अपनी छुट्टी का आनंद लिजिये!
So excited to see all the progress Polish has made! and I'm ecstatic Russian will be in phase 2 in the coming weeks. I've been on Duolingo for a while but at heart these are the 2 I've wanted so bad, I'm drooling to start them asap
I'm so happy for the French for Italian course, now there's more motivation for finishing the tree :D
Haha :D That's cool. Well, we tried hard ^_^ Now only some pictures are left to add, and then the course will go to Beta :)
Here is what Team DE<-PT says:
"Beta" is coming closer
Hi, folks. I stopped by to tell that German course's Beta version for Lusophones is about to get ready. We are just waiting for Duolingo's OK! We count on all of you to help spreading the word about the course and send us a lot of feedbacks everytime you feel something is wrong or missing. The course is still not perfect but with everyone's help we are going to get there. To be continued...
So, it sounds like its hatch could happen anytime soon!
somebody with wifi and a laptop could help him a bit maybe :) Thanks for the updates :D
Wow, this is pretty amazing. I think that Russian would be interesting to learn
He's working on the post as we speak. I just found out the same way last week...
I know this is random, but when the DE<PT guy wrote "galera" it immediately reminded me of the famous song with the lyrics "A galera começou a dançar"! Anyone else know what the hell I'm talking about? ;)