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Why don't Catalan and Yiddish have flags when the graphics already exist?

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EDIT: Looks like they took the hint! https://incubator.duolingo.com/

How come Catalan and Yiddish don't have flags in the Incubator when the sprites for the flags already exist?

You can find the flags here: https://d7mj4aqfscim2.cloudfront.net/images/flag-sprite6.svg

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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The Catalan flag is on the course page (on the website).

I guess Duo forgot to link them into every pages and will do once the course will be released in beta.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jbailey88
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Yeah, I saw that it was on the course page which is what prompted me to ask here.

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https://www.duolingo.com/DerGoldmann
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It does seem this post nudged them in the right direction! They added the updated Hebrew flag, the Catalan flag and also added Welsh to the drop down menu in the contribute to a course page. However, the Yiddish flag still hasn't shown up yet, I wonder what's the holdup?

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also added Welsh to the drop down menu in the contribute to a course page

I thought only courses that are taught in a course or a source language of a course are there.

Have the other courses not in the incub but in this list been added recently?
It could be an indication of next languages to be added (as source language or "learned" one) to arrive in the incub.

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Yep, ever since the Incubator made its debut the addition of new languages in the drop down menu have indicated a new course will enter soon. Also, some Welsh advocates have said that Duolingo has given them the go ahead and that Welsh should enter the Incubator sometime this week. I suppose it's confirmed!^^

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And for (traditional) chinese, dothraki ;), pendjabi, sindarin and bengali. Do you know if they are there for a while?
That's their presence that made me doubt that this "indicator" was still accurate.

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Unfortunately, Welsh seems to be the first addition to the list in many months. The other languages (Traditional Chinese, Dothraki, Punjabi, Sindarin and Bengali) have been there since the beginning.

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Thx for the answers!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jbailey88
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Welsh is coming, the incubator retweeted this tweet: https://twitter.com/Belle_Wales/status/631789642090721281

And the Welsh course facebook page is full of their correspondence with Duolingo including an email that said:

Hello Andrew and Richard, So sorry for the delay. We just launched a few new releases, but hopefully our designers will be able to finish up the assets necessary to launch Welsh this coming week. Keeping you posted and thanks again for being flexible. It's coming! Myra

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Thx for the info!

Would you have the FB group page ? I found this one but I couldn't find any trace of those mails exchanged with Duo.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kevinguy19
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So exciting!

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Thx for the link of FB page. Seems almost that yours and the one I gave are duplicates. ;)
But I don't see the copy of myra's mail.

For the incub page, it's the default page between any languages added to the incub but with no courses added.
We have even the same for course between a language and itself: incubator.duolingo.com/courses/fr/fr/status ;) ;)

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Soon.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fr224
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I assume that the Yiddish team hasn't been active for a while, since they haven't posted any updates and haven't made much progress recently. I would guess that Duolingo hasn't launched the Yiddish course page for this reason.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/xavi_fr
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wow thanks! I don't think it was a coincidence.... or yes?

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https://www.duolingo.com/jbailey88
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No problem. You just have to make Catalan for English speakers now :p

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https://www.duolingo.com/doktorkampi
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You are my hero. Thank you, sir!

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https://www.duolingo.com/jbailey88
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No problem, and like I said to your fellow contributor: you've just got to start thinking about Catalan for English speakers now!

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We will as soon as we finish this one (and they allow us)!

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For FR speakers first, please!! :) :)

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Mais oui! Pourquoi pas!

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https://www.duolingo.com/xavi_fr
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haha wait a little :D It was hard to enter the incubator, we don't want to leave it so fast :D

the more weeks we stay in the incubator the more quality you will have in the course. BTW my english is not native, so I don't think I will be selected for it ;)

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I think history is the reason

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https://www.duolingo.com/jbailey88
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Both of them already have flags already designed. They're the two on the rightmost side of the bottom row in the link I included above.

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I know, I've seen them both before. What I mean is that the history of the peoples that speak both of these languages might make choosing a flag problematic. Catalan in reality is a continuum of dialects, not only spoken in Catalonia, but also in parts of France, the Balearic Islands, in the Comunitar ValenciĆ , and even in the city of Algher in Sardinia, which is part of Italy. Yiddish is spoken by a big part of the Jewish diaspora all over the world. Therefore, it seems complicated to pigeonhole these very intricate language and cultures with just one flag. It's definitely not as easy as picking a flag and done. Also, it's not as if Duolingo has not done it already, but it seems like a good explanation.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jbailey88
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Don't think that's the case. They've clearly already chosen what the flags are - hence why they're included in the file. As you said, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, and English all exist under one flag, so I don't think Duolingo worry about giving "very intricate language and cultures with just one flag".

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There are both Chinese and Taiwanese flags there. What may that mean?

There's also a Quenya flag, but no sign of a Kenya flag. Nor of a Paraguayan or other king of Guarani flag, unfortunately.

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However, there is a Mayan flag!

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Yes, there is, and this is great! I just wish there were hope to there to be Guarani and Swahili.

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https://www.duolingo.com/DrSwordopolis
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And the Taiwanese and Chinese flags would be used to differentiate between Chinese with Traditional and Chinese with Simplified characers, respectively.

Chinese Traditional seems like a long ways off, considering there's no English course for it yet.

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