https://www.duolingo.com/learnallthetime

Anyone Interested in Ancient Greek?

New Testament, or “Koine,” Greek is the easiest version of the Greek language to learn. It bears many similarities to Classical Greek, the language of Homer and Aristotle, and the modern Greek used today.

Pretty much, learning Koine Greek without paying for university classes is a nightmare. There isn’t a “Rosetta Stone” or even a decent, all-in-one book for learning Koine Greek. That’s where I think Duolingo can help.

As a seminary professor with lots of experience teaching Greek and other ancient languages, I would love to contribute to a Koine Greek course on Duolingo!

If you’re interested in learning Koine Greek (or any other ancient language, for that matter) reply to this post or up-vote.

Did you know:

*25% of English words have Greek origins

*Greek writing spans 34 centuries

*With Koine Greek you can read the New Testament in its original language!!

Disclaimer I won't be able to work on it much until summer 2014, that's when I'm retiring.

“Did you know” facts taken from: http://www.uta.edu/english/tim/courses/4301w99/lge.html


UPDATE:

From the responses, it appears there is sufficient interest to propose a course in Koine Greek.

Since there are at least a half dozen people who might be interested in helping with Greek course development, perhaps we could touch base next summer to see if you still had an interest in working on a proposal to the Duolingo team.

In any case, the course would have to be set up after Duolingo’s transition from the current limited beta form of the incubator.

To set up such a course would require using a free Greek Unicode font, like the New Athena Unicode font (http://ucbclassics.dreamhosters.com/djm/greekkeys/NAUdownload.html) , assuming this is compatible with Duolingo’s software platform.

It would be helpful if some slides could be put into the course platform to give verb paradigms and some simple grammatical explanation.

To accomodate both users interested in ancient (Attic) and users interested in Koine (Hellenistic/New Testament) Greek, perhaps page references (for further study) could be made somewhere in the course to Mounce, Basics of Biblical Greek (the standard class textbook for New Testament Greek) and to Betts’ Complete Ancient Greek and Complete New Testament Greek (possibly the best books for private self-study). That way the user could find more examples and explanation slanted toward the particular form of Greek he or she had greater interest in.

Anyone on the Duolingo team or the user community have any further thoughts?

I’m new here and would welcome any input to get me up to speed on how things work with Duolingo.

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Hamish88
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My research is aimed at Classical Greek, specifically Homeric; but I would be willing to help. I've applied to help with Latin already. Old Norse and Anglo Saxon would be interesting additions.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jheavner724
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I'd also like Old Norse... I would help with Latin, Ancient Greek and Anglo Saxon (or Middle English if they have that too), but I'm too busy to do much, if anything, to help :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CallMeAnja

Old Norse and Latin would be awesome!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Patrick547549

Definetly on the Latin

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Singemonkey

I would particularly like to learn Homeric Greek one day. I feel like the first Ancient Greek course should be Attic Greek, since there is much more of interest to read with the language than simply the New Testament.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Boboonski

Also all of those sound great

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sigmacharding
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I'd love to learn Latin and Ancient Greek. Already do some Latin in my spare time but all very basic http://m.youtube.com/user/TuTubusLatinus?&desktop_uri=%2Fuser%2FTuTubusLatinus

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jasmine123214

I know DL is working on Modern Greek but Ancient Greek and Latin would be really great to learn.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hallowdin
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Do you know any way to learn Ancient Greek?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/learnallthetime

Hamish, glad to hear of your previous research experience with Greek and your interest (in your other post below) in working on the course.

If Duolingo is willing to open this course for development (I just sent them an email enquiry and asked them to cc: you on the reply), one of the first tasks in course development would be to identify the basic high-frequency vocabulary that is typically introduced in an introductory language course. As you probably already know, standard frequency lists for ancient Greek might include J.R. Cheadle, Basic Greek Vocabulary and Malcolm Campbell, Classical Greek Prose: A Basic Vocabulary; for New Testament Greek, the "List of Words Occuring Over 60 Times in the New Testament" in M. Zerwick and M. Grosvenor, A Grammatical Analysis of the Greek New Testament, Rome: Gregorian Biblical Press, 2010, xxix-xxxv.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scatophage
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There are tools at the Perseus Project you can use to generate vocab frequency lists based on different texts. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sn5867
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I know this was a while ago, but if you're looking for word frequencies, although it's Attic not Koine Dickinson College Commentaries has the most common words, pulled from the Thesaurus Lenguae Graecae database, here: http://dcc.dickinson.edu/vocab/greek-tlg-frequencies

9 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kdrussell
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I am almost fluent in written latin but i can't speak it or write latin. I would love a latin course and I would really love an Ancient Greek course because they don't do one at school. I really want to learn it!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arinai

Old Norse would be extremely welcome. I did try to learn it once, but didn't really keep up with it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cocio_16
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please support that guy

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/eliranh

I'd love to learn Ancient Greek on Duolingo. Very good idea. Reading Aristotle in the original language would be great.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlonsoIbat
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But that would require classical athenian. I would like this too, as it has been too long since I did greek advanced at university, and I was lazy at keeping it up.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scatophage
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Yes, Attic Greek would be the best choice.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/The_Conductor
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I'm taking Koine Greek right now in University, but I'd very much like a tool to retain/practice it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/learnallthetime

Exactly! A Koine Greek course on Duolingo would be really useful for university students!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iWitness

yep it would

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Espeonage24

If you contribute to the course, you can become a moderator for the language! And that will help speed up the process.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Libby_S
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I'm mainly familiar with Attic Greek, but I could probably help with Koine if I refreshed a bit. I'm curious to see how the Duolingo folks will deal with different dialects.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iWitness

no disrespect intended... but isnt duolingo here to teach ppl diffrent dialects, ma'am?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chibi_usa

She didn't mean different languages, she meant the way things are spoken (in the same language) in different parts. So they are curious if they will have a separate tree for the different area distinct words, be different branches for it of it they won't include it at all.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Libby_S
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I mean, would they be separate courses, or would the tree branch out, or what

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlonsoIbat
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I would say we need another course for Attica. I'm sure there would be many people willing to help with that, myself included.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zolgev

It would be really awesome if you taught classic attic greek instead of koine. Since for a koine learner moving to attic is harder yet for an attic learner moving to koine is easier. It would be awesome if you taught classical latin and middle persian(Pahlavi) too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bolletjeb

I agree. Classical (Attic) Greek would be more useful than Koine.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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So, you could create the course? I would be interested to learn.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/learnallthetime

I would like to, but the incubator (not surprisingly) doesn't have it as an option. I hope it will be added in the future.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Well, now it is in a limited beta for testing. Soon, from what I understand, users will be able to create courses from any language A to any language B, but not now. Even then, the team might still try to control what courses are created simply for quality purposes.

You might want to find another few people who would be willing to help you create the course. It is not a job meant for one.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hamish88
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And you can apply to the language incubator: For speakers of 'other', click 'apply to contribute'. Then it takes you to a separate page. On the language list it has an 'other' category where you can type 'koine Greek', etc

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Libby_S
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I think that, at this point, that only applies to native language (and I'm pretty sure that no one's native language is Koine); you still have to use the incubator to teach one of the 6 languages that are already available. At least until the end of the year.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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The requirement is just to be fluently bilingual in both languages.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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Wow, reading the new testament in its original language would be awesome.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rachvx
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You can also read the old testament in it, as well - the Septuagint. I guess if Duo accepts this offer to put in Koine, they'd have to accept words like Jesus and Jew... because many learn Koine to be able to read the NT (like me!!!)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iWitness

yea that would... but i would also like to learn Hebrew

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Boboonski

Very interested, also latin

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rue02
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I would LOVE to learn ancient Greek! That would be beyond awesome! As for other ancient languages, I'd also love to learn Latin and Norse.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RorySparshott

YES PLEASE.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cnhtkf
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Let's revive this thread! I would also be very interested in having the course for koine.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Singemonkey

Another vote here for Attic Greek. What does Koine Greek open up besides the New Testament? As compared with the great classics. In addition, those who know the language seem to say that it's easier to go from Attic to Koine than the other way around.

But despite my gripes, I'll learn whatever Ancient Greek becomes available on Duolingo. If I had the choice, I'd actually choose Homeric Greek.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ntechow

Is there any news on this one? I teach Hellenistic/Koine/NT Greek and would love to helpt develop. It would be great to offer such a course to my students.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rachvx
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Awesome! I AM LEARNING KOINE AND KNOW A GOOD AMOUNT. I'd love to be a contributor, if Duo accepts it. I really hope they accept this, because I and many others would love to be able to read the New Testament in the original language!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hamish88
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I don't see why you'd have to wait for next summer. You could knock up a proposal now in Koine and submit it to the Duolingo team. The 'beta form' is just part of the process of ensuring the language courses have a greater degree of quality. It would perhaps be interesting if, in the future, completion of one tree could unlock others. Koine Greek, which is the simplest, could then lead onto different courses in Attic, Ionic, Byzantine Greek, etc.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/konosp

Well, when it comes to Byzantine Greek... The official language of the state and the Orthodox Church was koine Greek. As for the language of the people (which I suppose it's what Byzantine Greek stands for), it was basically Early Modern Greek (from at least 1000 AD).

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anthony225659

Yes, I would be interested. Thanks.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoyDreamer

I would love learning Koine. This would be great.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/smearedink

Cool idea! And it makes me think that a course in Old or Middle English would be neat too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ja.p
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I have taken a Biblical Greek class and would love it if Duolingo would start on Greek! Teknia.com is another good place to do Greek online and get resources.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anonyduck

What an exciting and generous offer!

I am interested, but please consider using Modern Gk pronunciation if there is any audio component.

I have not seen any linguistic justification for 'ευ' to be pronounced 'Οy!', and 'oυ' to be pronounced 'Ow! (which is how I've heard NT scholars and English speaking uni lecturers pronounce them) and have always had a suspicion that early British classicists just chose whatever sounds the dipthongs made in English, and turned to German when there was no English equivalent!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cr48laptop

I'm really interested in learning older languages such as Greek, Latin, and Norse, so I can read the classics. I don't know much Greek apart from the alphabet (and I wouldn't say I know it very well), but count me in!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jleux

That would be fantastic I have been looking for a good source to learn Koine Greek from. I have an english greek parallel bible but nothing to help connect the dots.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Octravrian

I recall my experience in Seminary Greek class was an utter nightmare! I would have killed for another source of instruction on Koine Greek. It was so terrible I haven't touched my old textbooks in years, though I'd love to get back into it! Please create this resource for Seminary dropouts like me who still want to learn but can't stand to suffer through learning Greek on their own! Thanks so much for taking on this incredible task!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SJBonib

I know a bit of Attic Greek, (spoken by Plato and Aristotle and similar to Koine Greek) so this sounds like a terrific idea for me. I would definitely sign up

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/geneven
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I would mainly be interested in Attic Greek. There's a nice Everyman (I think) book on the subject I went through ages ago.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlonsoIbat
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I'd much prefer classic Greek. By the time Koine came along, the dative case had been fully dropped. Seeing as there's already a modern Greek course (29% complete), why not focus on giving learners something with a point of difference, rather than more of the same?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/benmordecai

It all depends on what texts you want to read.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlonsoIbat
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I've read a bit of Koine and it isn't a huge stretch from attica dialect. I've heard going the other way round is more difficult (mainly due to the dative case and grammar like the genitive absolute). Any thoughts?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ntechow

The dative was still used in koine and the genitive absolute as well. I began with classical Greek and the different dialects, Attic being one of them, the one from which koine developed. True, Koine is a bit easier, but not much if you take extra-biblical authors like Josephus, Philo, and Plutarch into account. One advantage in going for Koine is that the number of potential students and developers will be much higher since more or less all seminary students must learn Koine.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/benmordecai

I don't know enough about the language to say. I'm mainly interested in reading Biblical texts and early Christian writings.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/konosp

Koine did have dative.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/v_l_t_r

I support this proposal. It would be great to study ancient Greek in Duolingo !

Let's go for it ; ))

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SeldomThom

Attic or Homeric first!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SciFi2495

I agree, only because once you start w/ Attic, it is much easier to migrate to Koine (which is, unfortunately, the basis for why too many people want to learn). Switching from Koine to Attic is, only according to experiences of my students, more difficult.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Beachiano

learnallthetime that sounds very interesting to me! Why not? Yes!!!!! And Hebrew as well. Is this different than the one spoken today? - Thank you very much!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Goran12
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One of my friends studied ancient Greek, I think both Classical and Koine. When I'll see him next, I'll tell him about this. I expect him either not to be interrested enough to join or to be able to help only for summers (he's a student) - but that shouldn't be a problem.

EDIT: I myself am not able to contribute to any ancient language course, but I'd be interrested in Latin (I learn it now) and any biblical language (I will need at least something of them later).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/micabhlu
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Count me in!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MeadowsJosiah

I think that it would be very good to build a skill tree for ancient Greek. I've studied it for about three years, and attended an academy where the lessons are in spoken Greek!

I've voted up!

Josiah

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CharonteSimi

I would love to learn Ancient Greek. Eirini

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/raydancer
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If this becomes a reality, I'd definitely like to learn it!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scottann

I applaud all you people willing to help with Ancient Greek and also with Latin. When I retire I do want to pick them up again, and Classical Hebrew too, but would not be good enough to help! This community of learning never ceases to amaze me!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Douglas-Merlini

thanks I have been Learning greek and latin since I was 12....

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Douglas-Merlini

I would like to help Duolingo making this real.....

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arnara
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I think that ancient Greek would be great, anglo saxon and latin would be an interesting addition too.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/catherinefelce

Please do get this going - it would be great to learn NT Greek

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AroldoLiverpoli

I want to do (History and) Theology at Uni, so a Koine Greek course on this website would save me a lot of hassle. If it can't be done, a modern Greek would be sound (I mean Turkish, Irish and Hungarian are on here, so Greek has every right to be).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanaPratt

Koine Greek sounds good to me. I know some words and use a Greek-Hebrew dictionary when reading the bible. I think it would be very helpful to me.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MattRobertson3

Any update on this?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/frederic1986

Would love to see an Ancient Gre course, and I'd even be willing to pay for it.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/miliarma
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I know that this discussion is old, but maybe it's time to bring it back to life.

A hypothetical Duolingo course in Attic/Koine Greek which pronunciation system would it use? The Erasmian ?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JanetOlson3

I would prefer modern pronunciation. When I was trying to learn Erasmian, and looking for audio online, I heard three different ways to pronounce ̔ο λόγος, all by Erasmian scholars. That was only one word, so imagine dealing with that with every word you try to learn.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KarenBledsoe

Yes, please! I've love the chance to learn some ancient Greek! I teach science, and my background is in plant systematics, so all those scientific names with Latin and Greek roots -- yes, please, let's have some ancient Greek!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tesuji96

Until Duolingo gets ancient Greek, I recommend the following books for self-learners. I have tried many, many different books, and this one has the most gradual learning curve. This series is what finally enabled me to learn Greek:

Greek to GCSE series, by John Taylor

Part 1 book, new Sept. 2016 edition - http://www.amazon.com/Greek-GCSE-Part-Revised-Classical/dp/1474255167/

Part 1 book, older edition - http://www.amazon.com/Greek-GCSE-Part-John-Taylor/dp/1853996564/

I would also vote for classical Attic Greek over koine, if Duolingo is going to do just one ancient Greek course. If you learn Attic, you can can also read koine, but you can also read the great classic authors such as Plato, etc. If you only know koine, your understanding of Greek will be limited.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mareile2
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I vote for Latin and Ancient Greek. Both languages need to be approached like living languages to be learnt well - and to be fun. A little research on the web shows that there is massive interest out there for both spoken Latin and spoken Ancient Greek. Learners are creative and go to surprising lengths just to approach those languages actively - they hunt down Renaissance dialogues and 19th-century readers etc. There are online news and radio programs in Latin and Greek… I am convinced that Duolingo courses in Latin and Ancient Greek would be much more popular than some people seem to think!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CaspiaTaschia
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I really agree, Latin and Ancient Greek are so helpful in numerous academic fields. Just think how much easier it would be to learn if it gets on here!

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/s3raph11m

I studied Classical Greek in college and would love to continue my study through the Duolingo course structure. Any update on the status of this?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlonsoIbat
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I'd love a course on the Attic dialect.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BenMizrahi0
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I would like to see a course in either Ionic or Koine Greek.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryanAJParry
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I would LOVE an ancient Greek course. I did an MA in Koine.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SciFi2495

I taught Introduction to Classical Studies about 15 years ago, and it included basics of Ancient Greek (mostly Attic, some koine) and Latin. I will sign up for this course when/if it becomes available.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChevalierduTemps
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I would love it if there was an Ancient Greek course here, trying to learn it alone is very hard, and no offense, but the courses found in Memrise are not very helpful (At least for me).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/marekzbanski
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Great idea

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OrpheusKanoutos

Please to this course, reply if you agree, also try endangered languages such as tsakonian language of greece

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mike14621462
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Would love Koine Greek, so that i could read early Bibles.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conradventure

This course would be an amazing addition! I hope it can eventually be added to Duolingo! Theology students everywhere would rejoice!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scatophage
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Has there been ay further progress with getting this project off the ground? I'd be able to contribute, though I must admit that I'm really pulling for Attic over Koine. I find the later to be rather limiting, both in the scope of material you can start reading as well as how you can applying that knowledge to the learning of other dialects. There's a reason Classics Departments teach Attic first.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dvddttmr

I am a bible college student and would love to have this course as a means of reinforcing what has been learned in class.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DougMacNau
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Yes, please! Koine or Attic would be welcome!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hyrundo
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Latin and Ancient Greek languages were considered to be a 'must' for any person versed in science fields, that in European universities until the '50ies of the XX century. Nowadays you could be talking with STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) PhD's and they do not know a word out of them. For any science-related expert it should be mandatory to have solid skills in these ancient languages, simply because… literally the whole history of science was created upon those two (and Arabic, if we talk about the ancient mathematical tradition).

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conradventure

I totally agree. It would be great to have Latin and Greek added since so many academic disciplines were built upon those languages.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel459678

Is this course still coming out! I would love to learn Ancient Greek!

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christophe449216

I would vote for classic Attic Greek as opposed to just Koine greek

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/malt464824
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Please Ancient Greek. I would like very much to read classical texts in Ancient Greek.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christophe949136

I would love to study Ancient Greek, especially Koine.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caseyryan13

So... any news?

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zuarrie
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More interested in Attic than Koine but I support this!!! They're pretty mutually intelligible anyway (just please make sure you use polytonic orthography so Attic learners can get the three tones right).

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BenjaminMo450551

Most Ancient Greek is learned by Attic forms. But some programs start you in Ionic with Herodotus because it's always easier to follow a language as it develops forward than to reconstruct it backward. After reading Herodotus and Thales then Plato, reading Koine is basically a story book I can read at sight- and I only started learning Greek about 4.5 months ago.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnCatDubh
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Why not start with Homer then? Or Mycenaean Greek?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zuarrie
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Mycenaean is not all that well attested and the writing system is very defective. As for Homer, do you really want to read something that actually starts with the line "Sing, goddess, of the ruinous wrath of Achilles Peleiades..."? Or do you just want to read The Clouds like a normal person?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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There is definitely interest for Ancient Greek, you can see some of the previous discussions on the topic here http://www.duolingo.com/comment/873415

Whenever they allow modern Greek I will contribute in that course as much as I can, but even though I had a bunch of ancient Greek at school, I would rather spend my time on the modern Greek course.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/silvano.cheng

i would love to!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PetruD

That would be just awesome!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LynneSt
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I would be very interested.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iWitness

greek sound cool. i might be up for it i could try. but it is going to be a little hard for me. i want to go to college after this year of school. sounds interesting

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Roddy_

I'd be interested.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kidpan

Yes that would be so awesome. I bought books for learning Ancient Greek months ago and I'm making progress but it is much slower and harder than duolingo.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AFlecker
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That would be fantastic!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/patbo
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Just another "me too", I'd love to learn some Koine Greek (or actually refresh and extend what I learnt at school some years ago)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SeanG88

I'd like to learn ancient greek

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PhilipClark1

This would be awesome! I cant wait :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Joe18350

I have great interest

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FJoyB

First of all, I'll just add my "drop in the bucket" opinion that this would be really cool and is something that I am very interested in.

Second, I hope if this is a go in the future that we can get to see Duo in a chiton. ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SirenAnimations

I totally support the ancient greek by the way, i would love to learn Greek

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bluedaisy

It would be great if Greek became a part of Duolingo. I am Greek and I would love help other learn our beautiful language.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bolletjeb

I'm afraid this is not about modern Greek, bluedaisy, this thread is about Koine and/or Attic...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bluedaisy

We do learn Ancient Greek at school here in Greece you know and we can study it in greater depth if we wish as well, modern Greek as a language is the evolution of ancient Greek and as a result they have many many similarities. What I meant was that I would be willing to help others learn Greek , both Ancient and Modern, depending on what the Duolingo team wishes to offer.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bolletjeb

Okay, all clear now!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/asteraner

I would be very interested in working on an Attic/Koine module. I'm teaching the language to my children and duolingo would be a great way to practice their skills.

There are a couple of technical hurdles to work out. One, as you mentioned, is the font. Ideally, the user should be able to select a font for displaying a particular language. The second issue is the use of unicode normalization to allow both precomposed characters and combining diacritics. Does anyone know if duolingo supports unicode normalization?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anonyduck

I don't, but I have a number of languages set in Windows (Eng Intl, Eng US, HRV, ΕΛ). In Win 8, to cycle between different keyboards is as simple as pressing Win key + spacebar. It would not be too laborious to move from one to the other I think and save issues with compatibility or altering software.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/asteraner

That is true. But I am referring to a the unicode representations of the letters produced by those keyboards. For example, Windows comes with a polytonic Greek keyboard, but there are also third-party keyboards from Logos and Tavultesoft, too. But here's the point: some keyboards will produce precomposed characters while others use combining diacritics. For example, the letter ἄ could be represented as one single code point (alpha precomposed with breathing and accent), or as three different code points: one for the alpha, one for the breathing, and one for the accent. They look the same on the screen, but they are very different inside the program. It's a problem that has to be solved by the programmers using a technique called unicode normalization.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anonyduck

Oh yes, I forgot about those! Modern demotic Gk uses only the acute to denote where the accent is and the diaeresis for dipthongs. I believe the change happened c. late 70s when the language was simplified (plus other changes). But Modern Gk orthography isn't the answer I guess 'cos the iota subscript was also one of the things dispensed with.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stallerpanzer07

I would like it

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/taniagaria

HOW COOL IS THIS (^_^)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Despoina28

HOW COOL IS THIS(^_^)?*

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/haljpritchard

As a future Seminarian Student, having ancient, koine, attic, etc Greek would be awesome for helping me understand the biblical material. Why we are at it, do you know of anyone who could do ancient Hebrew or biblical Hebrew? This could definitely help in our translations and keeping us sharp in the field after seminary study.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarkStewar3
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I'd be very interested.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/benmordecai

I am planning to try to learn koine, the only question is whether it can be on duolingo.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/shagsper

How's it going with the Koine? Is a new course now being developed?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/IsakNygren1
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I'm going to study Koine Greek at the university next fall (2016) and having Koine Greek course on Duolingo would be great. A course in Modern Greek will come very soon, and I wonder how different Modern Greek is from Ancient Greek. Can anyone who is fluent in Modern Greek understand Ancient Greek at all?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/konosp

Koine Greek is not that hard (as long as you know some basic things about ancient Greek, like cases, verb conjugations etc). Attic is considerably harder.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Meiriona

I vote for Ancient Greek (either koinè and attic, but koinè is easier indeed) !! I am learning Ancient Greek, both classical and koinè, and I could talk about this project at the university...?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KapitanKaya
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I am totally interested!!!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alufalexb

Please add ancient greek

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/.infires.

i would really enjoy this

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SharanyaRa14

I'd love to learn Ancient Greek...its a great idea.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KapitanKaya
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I always wanted to learn ancient greek

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/l1viathan
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Me too!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Despoina28

I would really love to learn Ancient Greek!I am Greek myself but the ancient language is just too difficult for me!If I take this course then,maybe,I would understand it better.Latin would be a great alternative!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/guineagirl96
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I'm interested in Ancient Greek!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fkeller4685

good job

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/grizgrrl
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I would love it if such a course were added. I studied classical and Koine Greek in college, and would love to actively study it again with the Duolingo course structure. Also hoping that Latin -- which I studied in grad school -- is added at some point.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AnCatDubh
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I’m more in favour of Attic than Koine. But mostly I wonder what you plan on doing in terms of audio; hopefully classic pronunciation, tones and all...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zuarrie
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I mean, Koine pronunciation (vowel shifts and killing off the tones) can be completely extrapolated from Attic pronunciation. I suppose you could have two audio tracks.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/konosp

Classic prounciation would be anachronistic for Koine.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kaili5525

Greek is totally a good one

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/isawusaw

Koine Greek sounds great! (also Aramaic/Syriac, Coptic, Ge'ez etc)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SophieConn6

I'm interested!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AJK5599
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I would like a course in Koine Greek.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/1238723
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This would be a helpful course to study

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/evd22

YEY!!!!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chez_Jim

I would absolutely love this course! Needs to happen!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas_Wesley
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Yes please! I would definitely be interested. Either Attic or Koine

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chez_Jim

I personally think Attic greek is the most appropriate, but would be ecstatic with either. It needs to happen duolingo! Ancient Greek is arguably the most influential language in the western world!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas_Wesley
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Yeah, I can see the case for Attic being stronger. As long as one gets made, I'll be happy :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scatophage
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I vote for Attic as well. It's very easy to move from Koine having learned Attic than doing it the other way.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SJEarnest
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This would be uhmazing!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aaj94
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Sign me up!!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NickNaso2

Please make this a reality! If I can help, please email me: 777njn@gmail.com -Nick

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nate200373

I studied Ancient Greek in School. Honestly, I came to this site looking for it.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SciFi2495

Learnallthetime, that's a lot of good information! And links I didn't know. Thanks.

I agree on the reference to Bett's useful complete intro course, however Mounce, I think, is as fractured as Wheelock's Latin, and nearly as frustrating for self-directed instruction.

Sounds like you would be perfect to work with on the Duolingo course for Anc. Greek.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ml12021079

can someone please give me a Linglot

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lizzie3434

I would love to learn Greek!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlanS181824
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This would be really great to have on here - Along with Ancient Greek too of course!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/areynolds709

I would love to see a Duolingo course in Koine or ancient Greek added

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TreyHasket

I'm currently taking Koine Greek in Graduate school and would love a Duolingo course

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MXK8Bbzi

Ancient Greek and Latin would be great!

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Florian_Schaetz

While my first priority is Latin, I would welcome an ancient greek course and take it then.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tropology
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Interested in this too! What is the status? When was that update posted?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FatmaMarta

I'd love to learn ancient Greek

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mike14621462
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This is a vote for Koine Greek.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PolyHun167895432

As an ancient language enthusiast, I'd love to have Ancient Greek on Duolingo.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_N.
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Can this still happen? I’d love this! Latin too!

9 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CateDS
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Has anything progressed with the Koine, or did it die a sad death?

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tjrogers85
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It's been four years now since this conversation began, and there has been significant interest expressed in courses for both Ancient Greek and Latin - and still no movement at all for either one from what I can tell.

Meanwhile, there are complete courses available in both High Valyrian and Klingon.

Just sayin...

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_N.
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Teach Yourself have added more books on Ancient languages due to the rising interest such as Attic Greek, Koine Greek, Old English and Middle Egyptian with future books covering Old Norse, Aramaic amongst others. I hope Duolingo adds ancient languages too. I’m hoping for Attic Greek in particular though.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/edo_farias
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what happened with this?

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LittleMissGaelic
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I would definitely learn ancient greek if a course is added for it. I'm kind of a nerd, so classical languages definitely appeal to me.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ljburrow
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I'd be interested in learning Greek with a focus on those words which became the roots of modern scientific, mathematical and medical words. Would modern Greek (with the side benefit of being a living language) be good for this or would I be better off with classical Greek?

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/summertimesend

Yes please! Not good enough at Koine to help myself, but would definitely love to see something like this.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/random-charm

I'm interested in learning to read Ancient Greek. My preference would be Attic with a side of Koine. :^)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kitty_O
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I would LOVE it if duolingo did an Ancient Greek course.....I wouldn’t be able to help put it together, but I’d be one of the first to sign up to it!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bethany281730

I'd love to see this language added!

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iulia819907
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I would so gladly sign up for courses in Latin and Attic Greek.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Steve805126

I would love to learn Ancient Greek on DL.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ComtedesVaches

I am definitely interested in learning Koine (or Attic Greek). Put me down for supporting this! :)

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stones

It's true, but Gordon Conwell will send you a DVD with lessons for like $50, then buy the books. I'm doing it now, and it's not too bad!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/failedEJ

i've always wanted to learn ancient greek (and ancient hebrew), and i would love it to be added to duolingo, i think it's a great idea, and i'd learn it! plus i love duolingo, the way it helps you to learn languages so amazingly, yes please to adding ancient greek

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NeoBolshevism
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Not sure if this is relevant, but there actually is a series of books that you can pretty much learn Attic Greek from, and that is the Athenaze series of books; check it out if you are interested. Teacher's Handbook: https://www.scribd.com/doc/234428487/Athenaze-Teacher-s-Handbook-1 Chpt. 9 of Book: http://www.clasicasloscerros.com/Griego/alumnos/10Paneguiris.pdf

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zuarrie
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Chiming in with the textbook I use:

ancientgreek.pressbooks.com

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Patrick547549

Umm... You have to click a button and study... that's all I know

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MorningKitten

will it ever come?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/headache_booth

I would give you a Lingot, but unfortunately, I'm all out.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChevalierduTemps
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So, how similar are Koine and Classical Greek?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/konosp

Koine is considerably simpler.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tjrogers85
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Another vote for Ancient Greek. Although I'm not brimming with optimism here, since this discussion is now three years old with no apparent movement.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dotpool12

Ancient Greek would be great! Does it have the same alphabet as us though?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conradventure

No it doesn't. You can view the alphabet here: http://www.christ.com/greek/greek-alphabet.shtml

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dotpool12

Thanks! I struggle to learn langues without the same alphabet, but I would give it a try!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SciFi2495

Dotpool12, good question, and Conradventure's answer is correct, however the visuals are not too, too difficult, and once you have it down, there are enough cognates to make a smooth learning experience. If this course ever is made, it will be beneficial to thousands.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dotpool12

Thank you both for the help!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conradventure

I'm sure you could do it. It would simply take some practice and memorization. I never considered myself good at languages but in college I had to take a course on Hebrew for my degree. It terrified me going into it since it was wholly different than english but in the end it wasn't bad. It just took a couple days of studying to nail the new alphabet. If I did it then I bet most people can.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dotpool12

I suppose...

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ellada224

If this ever happens, I hope they use modern pronunciation, I can't stand other ones. Or else, I guess I'll just turn my volume off

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DianaUrbaite

I'd like to learn Ancient Greek, but would prefer the Attic Greek over Koine Greek.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ScottKBeck
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Classical Greek would be great

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chirpis7
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So...4 years later. Has anything happened on this front?

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tjrogers85
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Yeah. Since then, DL has developed full courses for Klingon and High Velyrian. So the languages of fictional characters are worth their time, but the language of ancient history and philosophy is not.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conradventure

I think to begin creating a course for something like Greek or Latin, Doulingo needs people willing to volunteer to create the content. Like you said though, it is super frustrating that somehow people who know obscure fictional language get their courses out while more valuable languages haven't seen the light of day.

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SirenAnimations

I would love help with learning the eastern languages such as Chinese (both), Japanese, and Korean, and others i have missed here. Also Indian and Malay.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabbie05

nope do not care

2 years ago
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