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Slow Finnish - Chapter 5c - Puhelimessa

Allatiivin yksikkö - The allative singular

In some cases, the allative resembles the German dative. It is used to express doing something to someone.

  • Laulan hänelle. I sing to him/her.
  • Soitamme sinulle. We (will) call you.
  • Kerron sinulle myöhemmin. I will tell you later.

In the allative singular nouns have the same stem as in the nominative plural.

  • ihminen, ihmiset; ihmiselle
  • mies, miehet; miehelle
  • nainen, naiset; naiselle
  • lapsi, lapset; lapselle
  • poika, pojat; pojalle
  • tyttö, tytöt; tytölle

The adjective attributes of nouns decline in the same manner.

  • hyvä, hyvät; hyvälle
  • nuori, nuoret; nuorelle
  • vanha, vanhat; vanhalle
  • kaunis, kauniit; kauniille
  • komea, komeat; komealle
  • iloinen, iloiset; iloiselle
  • onnellinen, onnelliset; onnelliselle
  • surullinen, surulliset; surulliselle
  • vihainen, vihaiset; vihaiselle
  • mukava, mukavat; mukavalle
  • pieni, pienet; pienelle

Here are the personal pronouns in the allative.

  • minulle
  • sinulle
  • hänelle
  • meille
  • teille
  • heille

Verbit: Ryhmä 1 - The type 1 verbs

Soittaa, to call (on the phone). Remember that double t is reduced to single t in all persons except in the 3rd person singular and plural.

  • (minä) soitan
  • (sinä) soitat
  • hän soittaa
  • (me) soitamme
  • (te) soitatte
  • he soittavat

Kertoa, to tell. -rt- changes into -rr- in all persons apart from the 3rd person singular and plural.

  • (minä) kerron
  • (sinä) kerrot
  • hän kertoo
  • (me) kerromme
  • (te) kerrotte
  • he kertovat

Antaa, to give. -nt- changes into -nn-. The change does not occur in the 3rd person singular and plural.

  • (minä) annan
  • (sinä) annat
  • hän antaa
  • (me) annamme
  • (te) annatte
  • he antavat

Let's revise some familiar expressions.

  • tänään today
  • huomenna tomorrow
  • myöhemmin later
  • pian soon

Harjoitus 1

Käännä englanniksi. - Translate into English.

  • Soitan sinulle huomenna.
  • Kerrot sen hänelle myöhemmin. (sen it in accusative)
  • He antavat sen nuorelle tytölle.
  • Soitamme heille pian.
  • Kerrotte sen meille.
  • Mukavat pojat antavat sen minulle.
  • Soitan tänään vanhalle miehelle.
  • Kaunis nainen kertoo sen sinulle.
  • Annamme sen pienelle pojalle.
  • Hän soittaa meille.
  • Nuoret lapset kertovat sen meille.
  • Annatte sen mukavalle naiselle.
  • Soitatte minulle huomenna.
  • Hän kertoo sen myöhemmin minulle.
  • Annan sen iloiselle tytölle.

Harjoitus 2

Käännä suomeksi. - Translate into Finnish.

  • I will call you (plural) later.
  • We tell it to him.
  • You (singular) give it to me.
  • The small children will call us tomorrow.
  • He tells it to the Swedish woman.
  • The Finnish girl gives it to her.
  • We will call the old man soon.
  • You (plural) will tell us later.
  • I will give it to the nice boy today.
  • The beautiful women call the handsome man.
  • The sad people tell it to them.
  • We give it to you (singular).
  • They will call you (plural) later.
  • We tell it to the young boy.
  • I will give it to her tomorrow.

Let me know what you thought about today's lesson. Should you have any questions or suggestions, please comment below. Here is a link to the previous lessons: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/10579104

Hei!

October 5, 2015

8 Comments


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VASTAUKSET

Harjoitus 1

  • I will call you tomorrow.
  • You will tell it to him/her later.
  • They give it to the young girl.
  • We will call them soon.
  • You tell it to us.
  • The nice boys give it to me.
  • Today I will call to the old man.
  • The beautiful woman tells it to you.
  • We give it to the small boy.
  • He calls us.
  • The young children tell it to us.
  • You give it to the nice woman.
  • You will call me tomorrow.
  • He/she tells it to me later.
  • I give it to the happy girl.

Harjoitus 2

  • Soitan teille myöhemmin.
  • Kerromme sen hänelle.
  • Annat sen minulle.
  • Pienet lapset soittavat meille huomenna.
  • Hän kertoo sen ruotsalaiselle naiselle.
  • Suomalainen tyttö antaa sen hänelle.
  • Soitamme pian vanhalle miehelle.
  • Kerrotte meille myöhemmin.
  • Annan sen tänään mukavalle pojalle.
  • Kauniit naiset soittavat komealle miehelle.
  • Surulliset ihmiset kertovat sen heille.
  • Annamme sen sinulle.
  • He soittavat teille myöhemmin.
  • Kerromme sen nuorelle pojalle.
  • Annan sen hänelle huomenna.

I have a tendency to make mistakes. Let me know should you find any.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/widle

Done, thanks.

I have a question about word order. Sometimes you give the time at the end of the sentence (like in English), sometimes after the verb. Is it interchangeable? Does it stress a different part of the sentence? Are there any other possible placements (like at the beginning of the sentence)?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chirelchirel

Like I said somewhere earlier, the word order in Finnish is quite flexible. You start with the most important thing and save the less important stuff for the end or you strat with what is known and end with whatever is new information. There are also specific sentence structures (types) that can affect word order. I suppose all the subtleties are advanced stuff (since I get to comment on word order a lot while editing novels written by natives :D). I think the most basic word orders can be expressed like this:

(other)+subject+verb+object+other

If other is very important, you start with it, otherwise you leave it to the end.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/widle

Great, thanks. :)

Yeah, I suppose it's advanced stuff, just this afternoon I commented on word order when I was proofreading my colleague's article. :) And it seems to be quite similar to how the Czech language treats word order, which makes me even more interested because I half expect to stumble on a difference sooner or later.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chirelchirel

And your comments make me want to learn Czech :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/widle

Well, at least Czech is already in the incubator. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zzzzz...

The Finnish word order is pretty flexible. Soitan myöhemmin teille. and Soitan teille myöhemmin. are both perfectly good Finnish. I would say that the latter sentence is the default one. I am not sure about stress. I will ask chirelchilrel to comment on that one. Some words can be placed at the beginning of the sentence. Tänään soitan sinulle. or Huomenna soitan sinulle. work pretty well. I would say that in those cases, the first word is stressed.

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