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I said, "We have too many places at table" - without "the" - and got it wrong again. I really think it should be accepted - it does make sense in English and IS used sometimes. I heard it yesterday in a BBC reading of Charlotte Bronte's "Shirley".
Once again "too many places at table " was not accepted by DL. I can't understand why this is so, since it means exactly the same thing as "too many places at the table".
Why italian people don't use defininite article before noun in that sentence "a tavola" for example "alla tavola" or "al tavolo". In this case we are talking about specific table.
It's idiomatic, like 'in cucina'. I don't think there's a reason, it's just one of those quirks of language.
why isn't it "a tavolo" ? is there any difference in usage between tavola and tavolo ?
"Leggere il giornale a tavola è maleducato. Leggere il giornale al tavolo va bene." The Italians don't make it easy for us ;)
my italian teacher told us that tavola is the family table and tavolo is just any table.
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It happens sometimes when the entire extended family is gathering at my mom's house for dinner. We miscount how many cousins, nieces and nephews, etc. are coming and realize we have set too many or too few places at the table. :)
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"tavola" is a feminine noun
"al" = a+il ("il" is a masculine article)
you can say:
1) "al tavolo" (you cannot say "a̶ ̶t̶a̶v̶o̶l̶o̶")
2) "a tavola" (you cannot say "a̶l̶l̶a̶ ̶t̶a̶v̶o̶l̶a̶")
Not sure why "at table" should be marked wrong? "At table" is an English expression pretty much directly equivalent to "a tavola", it's slightly old fashioned I guess, but definitely still used.
I left out 'the' and the program tells me I need it. I have been speaking English for nearly 60 years and know this is not true. So where does it come from?
It comes from being taught by an American whose English is not native. I spend my time learning Americanisms to avoid being marked down.
I was marked wrong for "we have too many places at table." which is perfectly good English. I was marked wrong for leaving out the "the" which does not appear in the Italian sentence/
Agh, I can't stand when I make gammar typos and they count it as a mistake :c
Yes, but the upside is that Duo is forcing me to improve my typing. And my English spelling.
I know...it's definitely the pits...but I mostly get angry at myself, not Duolingo...and I remind myself that I have to check for those stupid errors before I hit that submit button!♡
I did just get faulted for writing 'to' rather than 'too' when I could not have meant anything else. Not ideal to have Duo being a grammar pedant on my English as well.
i think the word i hate most of all in the world is 'ling'. this unfortunately has had a knock on effect on my enjoyment of mulan.
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In English, 'too much' is used for an uncountable amount, such as 'too much milk' or 'too much anger'. If you are talking about something of which there is a certain number, something you can count, you use 'too many', as in 'too many cars' or 'too many places at the table'. :)
Thanks,I know that difference but I looked on this in wrong way I was thinking about space on the table.
In general (not always) much is used in English with singular nouns and many is used with plural nouns.
Φτιάξτε το νούμερο αυτό, είναι τόσες μέρες που ερώτηση και απάντηση είναι ίδια. Μην σας πάρει ο διαβολος
My understanding is that tavolo is a piece of furniture, and tavola is a place the family gathers to eat together. It's kind of nuanced -- with tavolo being less personal than tavola. So far this understanding has served me well in maintaining my hearts, though I'm open to correction.
Correct!...but the one oddity is that when you are asking for or booking a dining table at a restaurant, they use tavolO!!
I think troppi = too many, which denotes excess. "Many" will just mean numerous.
Such talk, so many posts and nobody tells us which is correct sentence. VERGONIA!!!!!!!!!
We have too many places at the table ........this is exactly what I put in and I was told it was wrong!!! That's the seventh sentence today not accepted and exactly what Duolingo translates it as!
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In UK English we say 'at table' if we refer to places for diners set at a dining table. We would say 'on the table' or 'by the table' if we are referring to objects placed on or around the table. Only occasionally would we say 'at the table', in circumstances such as 'there is a man standing at the table', but even then it would be better to say 'by the table'. In this instance we are clearly talking about place settings, so 'at table' is correct.
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Hmmm...
That may be a regional or class thing... I'd very rarely say "we have too many places at table" - "...at the table", yup.
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Not a class thing - its received English, or BBC English. As another contributor has already said, its the classic form in English, and found in Jane Austen, etc. You may be thinking of the the Yorkshire dialect where 'the' is implied but not fully spoken (such as literally at ' table) with a gluttoral stop replacing the 'the', but I don't think this is being so subtle. 'At table' is good Oxford English. The question "Are you at table', for example, means 'have you sat down to eat?.
I'm an ancient Scotswoman and I say both at table and at the table are correct.
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Why? It's a perfectly reasonable English sentence.
(Minor "the"-or-not apart)
There are four people for dinner tonight. We've laid six sets of plate/cutlery/glass/chair. We have too many places at (the) table.
