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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SheilaFitzgerald

I'm not illiterate, however....

Spelling is a challenge for me. It is frustrating for me that the newest upgrade to the ap now puts the corrected version OVER (on top of) what I typed in for my answer so I can no longer compare what I wrote to what the correct spelling is. I misspell English words too and that's my primary language.

Also, if I've misspelled a word and the ap tells me "that's not right, try again" and I misspell it several more times getting the same response, chances are I'm NOT going to figure out what the correct spelling is. Having this repeat 6+ times this morning was more then a little frustrating and I just started answering "no" instead of trying to type it out again after the third failed attempt. If I haven't gotten it by the third try, chances are I'm not going to spell it right. Just my opinion on this of course.

Also, since my primary focus is learning to speak the languages (not necessarily being able to write it) - One of the activities I find most useful is having to write in the French version when given the sentence in English (or primary language). I think this could be extended to giving the English version (or primary language) and having to speak what that would be in French as an alternative to writing it. I can read and understand a lot more then I can recall off the top of my head, especially when trying to have a conversation with someone, so the above activity might actually improve recall as well. Not to say replace writing with speaking the sentence, but augment the learning by having to speak in French what is written in English.

October 8, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/greg.mort

When doing writing exercises instead of typing your answers use 'dictate' (speech to text) option on your smartphone. Also if you will install French keyboard, 99% of the time it will provide correct spelling. Assuming you're even remotely close to the proper spelling.

But I agree, those hovering tooltips should disappear after time on their own, like 5-10 seconds later, no more. Right now you have to click frantically all over the screen to get rid of it.

October 8, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BastouXII

Once you feel comfortable enough in French, you can do the reverse tree ("learn" English from French), to get more "type that in French" type of exercises.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SheilaFitzgerald

I wondered what people meant by the reverse tree. Thanks. I'll definitely keep that in mind.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/parapluie41

Studying the phonetics of French spelling more might help with this. French spelling is pretty darn regular. Unlike in English, most letters and letter combinations consistently make the same sounds. There are many patterns that just show up again and again.

I believe these are the two guides that helped me the most:

http://www.languageguide.org/french/grammar/pronunciation/index.html

http://jakubmarian.com/french-e-e-e-e-e-whats-the-difference/


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BastouXII

Thanks for these resources! I'll recommend them along with Phonétique whenever people struggle with French pronunciation!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/buenotc

I use the app and I click on the word suggestions from my keyboard :p so that helps with spelling.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SheilaFitzgerald

I know you can mouse over the underlined word and I do that from time to time if I'm having trouble remembering what a word is, but the option isn't there in the real world so I tend to try and get it on my own. Definitely would've helped when I wasn't getting it at all though. I had the right word, I just had it spelled wrong. I didn't even think to mouse over the word to see how it was spelled. Thanks.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BastouXII

If I'm not mistaken, you can move that window around on the mobile app (at least on Android you can). Try it next time to see your given answer.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SheilaFitzgerald

And the answer is, yes. You can move that window around. I hadn't even tried, but it sure is helpful to know. Thanks again :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SheilaFitzgerald

I don't think they're movable on the ipad, but I'll check. The screen is to small for me on the iPhone, so I tend to use the iPad more for the ap. Thanks.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sibhreach

As far as the mobile app goes, when you get the corrected flag over your written text, you can actually move that pink flag up or down (I can, at least - Windows Phone app, though). When you touch the word for a translation clue, all you need to do is tap the clue again to make it go away.

For me, the hardest part is hearing/understanding it. Spelling, I shock myself that I've not had too much trouble - unless, of course, I don't understand what is being spoken. The mobile app audio is poor in my opinion but the website is definitely better. I just find spoken French really difficile! :)

Bonne chance!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BastouXII

French spelling and pronunciation, albeit not intuitive, is highly regular. It just takes some time to "get it", and figure out the patterns. It's particularly tough for English natives though, because English has encompassed so many badly pronounced French words over the time.

You can try Phonétique to learn proper French pronunciation. I haven't used it myself (being a native French speaker), but everyone I recommended it to said it was very useful.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sibhreach

Génial! Merci beaucoup! I agree - it was a nice surprise to recognise the written words, but trying to catch them spoken and understand what I'm hearing; it's my personal learning nightmare! Of course, I always give more merit to live (and native) speakers than I do audio-bots. :D LOL


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BastouXII

You can also check parapluie4194's recommendations, I've found them to be quite accurate and easy to understand (although I might be biased since I don't really need to understand it).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasieenKaur

I think daily reading and writing is good practice for learn everything.

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