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Somos is first person plural, son is third person plural. Put more simply, somos is "we are," and son is "they are."
Of course, but she is asking for the 'son' form. As you point out, singular formal you uses 'es' =)
I believe so.
"Nosotras son mujeres"= We are women.
"Ustedes son hombres"=You are men.
Nosotras son mujeres is wrong. The correct form is nosotras somos mujeres.
Ustedes son hombres is right.
The right forms:
Somos is always for the plural first person. Son is for plural third person and formal plural second person. The gender never matter.
angelicaKQ & SkyeChung: no. "Somos" is for "we", male (nosotros) or female (nosotras). "Son" is for "they", male (ellos) or female (ellas).
my answer is for yumi.v- As said skapata, son is also for ustedes, not only for ellos/ellas
my answer is for mitaine56: I didn't say that, I answer angelicaKQ & SkyeChung comments that said: "do you use somos for nosotras and son for ustedes all the time then?" & "I think, we can say it son is for a man and somos is for woman.. is that so?". Look, they are hidded.
I still dont get when to use somos and son..:( do you use somos for nosotras and son for ustedes all the time then?
"Somos" can be "we are" and "son" you guys are" But if you really want to have the exact translation "son" by it self would mean "those are"
biggerballs, it's third person, however, nosotras is first person plural
When you are describing a trait such as gender or something permanent or innate about yourself or someone.
For example: ellos son hombres or ella son mujeres , nosotros somos profesores.Etc
why do we bother to use nosotras/nosotros if the sentence without it means the same thing?
Indeed, "Somos mujeres" is a fine sentence. Just in case you want to emphasize, you would use it.
If you're a man in a group of men, and you say "nosotrAs", you're saying that all the group of men is gay or that you feel like a woman. In Spanish the gender is important...
Nosotras somos mujeres Ustedes son mujeres Yo soy mujer Usted es mujer Tú eres mujer
Would these be the correct usage?
You are wrong, Somos is the same like Nosotras somos. It is included in the verb.
Basically, yes. Nosotros is also used for any group of mixed gender. However nosotr@s is seldom used because it's usually superfluous.
Did you mean when to use mujer and mujeres? If yes:mujer is woman and mujeres is women.woman is singular while women is plural. If not I didn't understand your question
vipulkishore3 and shulist, nosotros refers to MEN and mujeres is WOMEN hence nosotrAS
I did the same thing. I had forgotten that nosotrAS denotes feminine gender, nosotrOS for men.
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is nosotras a common word said in feminine sentences or can it be taken out, with the same effect?
kevinabella47, yes, but if duo refers to something feminine it wants "nosotras", do it at your own peril. lol
All wives are women, but all women are not wives. In Spanish it's the same. Because you can say "my woman" (in Spanish) to you wife, but not all women are wives. Can you see the difference? "Mujer" allways mean "woman", but you can say "my woman" to you wife...
It commonly means women, although depending on the context it could mean wives. But for wives you'd specifically use esposa. For formal learning stick to be as specific as possible, then you can get fancy with context :)
your discussion gave me a bit deeper understanding of the use of the 'verbs' 'son & somas' in Espanol as a beginner;))) this kinda thing goes a long ways towards a better understanding & grounding of he language thankyou guys & girls!
What does eres means?
Means 'are', from the verb 'to be', when addressed to a single listener in a familiar way [tú eres - you are]
I always look over my answers closely to make sure I spelled everything right and I used the write words. Sometimes I'll mix up read and write.
Heres a little hwlp i know this info is right because of my spaniah class hope it helps
Moreligirl_Spide, that's not actually true. nosotros and nosotras, both mean "we", so it's necessary to differentiate if the "we" is males or females
Why write "they are" if "they're" means the same? You can write it in the both ways. So in Spanish you can put the pronoun or delete it. If you use the pronoun you can know of who a text is talking about exactly, because some conjugations are the same (for example nosotros somos and nosotras somos, ella es and él es).
Hi, I'm confused as to when I should use 'son' and when I should use 'somos', and what both these words mean....help?
Shira715696 & surojit.32, son means they are or you(plural) are. somos means we are.
Could you also say Somos mujeres? Or do you need the Nosotras? If so, why? Thanks!
if you were saying "We drink milk" and you're speaking behalf a group of men and women, would you use Nosotros?
"Nosotros bebemos leche" is correct for any group that contains at least one male. However, Spanish usually leaves out the personal pronouns for yo, tú, nosotros/as, and vosotros/as (I, you (familiar), we, and you (plural familiar in Spain) because the verb ending shows what the pronoun should be (i.e., bebEMOS). "Bebemos leche" is what you would normally say, so you wouldn't need to worry about the gender composition of the group. Hope this helps.
Can someone tell my why this is "Nosotras" and not "Nosotros"? Its not clear from the lesson.
shulist, mujeres should tell you it's nosotras. nosotros is maculune
Todas nosotras somos mujeres would be the correct translation to We all are women.
dvcoolster, Moreligirl_Spide, Yes it is incorrect since "todas" would have to be in the sentence
If I write "we are wives" which is the alternative given for mujeres....why does it become incorrect?
Wife/wives = Esposa/s
In Spanish, when you talk about someone's wife, you can say "su mujer" (the opposite: "her husband" = "su señor", at least in Mexico). But "mujer" means refers the women. If you want to specify that you're talking about a wife, you say "su esposa".
it may be because not all women are wives. wife/wives in english would mean one is married.
To me it just seems a little odd. Like in that context they would use "esposas" because "mujeres" would most likely be taken to mean "women" in the context. The double meaning is more like "Él la quiere a su mujer" He loves his woman/wife.
yes good point lago, mujer/s is not translated into wife or wives. its all about the context when yo use it in spain too. a bunch of women wouldn't say that
Shouldn't women and female be the same here? Got so many answers wrong because I write female instead of women
"Women" is a noun. "Female" is an adjective. Also, "women" refers to humans, but "female" refers to all kinds of things.
Phaikon, female is also a NOUN. for ex: that female skates well. female is the subject and is a noun.
Yes. "Female" is a noun. It's not a close synonym to "mujer". There are a lot of English synonyms for women. I think even "broad" is a closer to the mark than "female", but it would be weird if "Nosotros somos mujeres" meant "We are broads". For a few reasons. One of which is that "broad" is, confusingly, more commonly an adjective that a noun.
Broad is usually used as a semi-derogatory term in America; although there are worst terms for women :).
The moral of the story is context and specificity. Like said above, female can mean any species; not just human. Yes, I know what you mean if you say female, but the purpose of learning is to teach you the most formal way to do something. You can use informal/slang conversation later :)
Now I understand the difference between Somos and Son... but would 'eres' not fit into this sentence? If I used, "Nosotras eres mujeres"... what would it mean?
As posted above, 'eres' addresses a single listener [2nd person singular] in familiar way. The subject you indicate is a 'we' [1st person plural] which uses different conjugation (somos).
Spanish uses a unique conjugation form for each subject just as English uses 'am' only for 'I' in 'to be' (you just can't say we am women, right?).
"Somos" is plural first person. "Son" is plural third person (or formal plural second person). "Somos" is used with "nosotros"/"nosotras" and "son" is used with "ellos"/"ellas"/"ustedes".
What if its a mixed group (i.e. a group of women and men)? Would you use nosotros or nosotras?
How come in spanish with some sentances they use 'somos' as 'are' when also 'son' is are and they say it's incorrect here?
Yo soy (I am) Tú eres (You -singular- are) Él/Ella es (S/He is) Eso/Ello es (It is) Nosotros somos (We are) Ustedes son (You -plural- are) Ell@s son (They are)
Just repeat and remember this list of conjugations :D
"Somos" is first person. "Son" is third person. You should use "somos" and not "son", because "nosotras" is first person.
Nosotras somos mujeres. (First person.)
Ellas son mujeres. (Third person.)
You should never say "nosotras SON mujeres".
Eres is singular second person (tú eres). Somos is plural first person (nosotras somos).
All wives are women, but all women are not wives. Wife is a married woman, all women are married? No, then "mujeres" means "women", and in some cases you can say "my woman" to your wife (in Spanish) an it would be "mi mujer".
ethanfff, somos is the "we" form of ser (to be). use if whenever you use ser and want to say "we"
I wrote Nosotros somos mujeres but they counted it wrong and said NosoTRAS....... confused! Any comments?
You change the gender. That's what is wrong. It is "nosotras", not "nosotros", because mujeres is feminine, not masculine.
Can someone explain me the use of usted or ustedes? It replaces you and its more formal or polite?
arisioz, usted is you, singular, formal. ustedes is you, plural, and can be formal OR informal
kellan.swa, both mean"are" but the pronouns are different, i.e., we, they or you
AliDee518, nosotros & nosotras both mean "we". nosotros is used when the "we" are all men OR a mix of men AND women. nosotras is used when the "we" is ALL female. ustedes is the plural of usted, both mean "you". there is no such thing as ustedas
what is the difference between 'nosotras somos mujeres' and ' somos mujeres' without nosotras ?
ahmedboshra, there is no difference. they are the same; often the pronoun is omitted in spanish
nosotras and nosotres is so confusing that i got it wrong the first 2 times how can i keep them straight?
It is "nosotras" (feminine) for a group of only female people, and "nosotros" (masculine) for a group of male people or female and male (even one) people. "Nosotres" doesn't exist.
"Nosotras" is if the group is only women. "Nosotros" if there is at least one male in the group.
No, it can't, each pronoun has got his own conjugation of the verb:
yo soy > I am
tú eres > you are
vos sos > you (South America) are
usted es > you (formal) are (usted is 2nd person, but is conjugated as 3rd person)
él es > he is
ella es > she is
nosotros somos > we (masculine) are
nosotras somos > we (feminine) are
vosotros sois > you (Spain, masculine) are
vosotras sois > you (Spain, feminine) are
ustedes son > you (Latin America. Formal in Spain. Ustedes is 2nd person, but is conjugated as 3rd person) are
ellos son > they (mascuilne) are
ellos son > they (feminine) are
tygrif02, use "son" when you want to say they are or you are (plural as in you all). use "somos" when you want to say we are
SergeyNim, yes! somos mujeres is fine, but, it has to be "nosoTRAS somos mujeres"
Takyikate, both mean "we", use nosotros when the "we" is ALL men OR any mix of men AND women. use nosotras when the "we" is ALL females
juliamp503, you DO realize there's a difference between woman and women??????????
i know it just makes me mad because i knew the difference but i typed the wrong one
Nosotros means Plural Masculine "We" (a group of men) like "Nosotras somos mujeres. We are women."
and Nosotras means Plural Feminine "We" ( A group of female) Like "Nosotros somos hombres. We are men."
Would "somos mujeres" be equally correct or do you have to have the nosotras? I thought I had seen in previous lessons that they said something with the same meaning "we are ___" but with no "nosotros" before it
surojit.32, son means they ARE (ellos or ellas) or you (plural) ARE (ustedes), somos means we ARE
what is difference between some, son, es, and eres? Cause in previous lessons duolingo side to use es or eres...
Conjugation. The verb changes with each pronoun. "Some" doesn't exist in Spanish.
BeefTacos, no! mujeres is plural PLUS nosotras will take a plural predicate noun
o19.bash.g, the word for "all" is todo or toda or todos or todas; none of these words is in this sentence
Sometimes you will find a "Tips" section just below the numbered lessons on the lesson selection screen. But it doesn't tell you much! If there are "Tips," a link will also appear in the upper left corner of each question screen during the lesson.
"Somos mujeres" why this isn't "Nosotras somos mujeres" ? Is that same or what ?
Do you have to use nosotros? How do you know when to use it or when to not?
Generally you don't need to use nosotros or yo or tu etc... As they are understood by the verb form... U can use them for emphasis
Nata..., no, you don't HAVE to use it. when you do use it, it has to refer to a group that is all male or a mix of men and women
why did we say "nosotras somos mujeres" instead of "somos nosotras mujeres" ?
I believe that the word "nosotras" means we, and the word "somos" means are. That is why the sentence should be written as "nosotras somos mujeres".
'cause, even if it is not a rule, it sounds like a question. But is not a question. And it also sounds bad like a statement.
Because spanish speakers love to switch things around like yoda. They also love double negitives
Somos nosotras mujeres is the ordering for when formulating a question, so you could ASK 'Somos nosotras mujeres?'.
This is not a question in spanish. In english, the word ordering changes in questions. There is no such thing in spanish. In spanish, the word order is free, unless it changes the meaning of the sentence. But some word orderings are more often than others, and changing the word order can change the emphasis.
Do you mean "Somos nosotras mujeres?" = "Are we women?"
So by extension, is "Sois vosotras mujeres?" = "Are you all women?"
I am in spanish 4 at my school and i have never been taught to use nosotras. Is that something used only in spain or something like that? My teachers have all been Columbian
If you're talking of a group with no men (not a single one) and you are part of that group, then you use "Nosotras". Any other case, use "Nosotros".
Are you a man? That'd be a good reason to never have to use nosotras.
Also no, it's everywhere but is definitely heard much less often due to the fact that the group using it must be composed of all females.
I'm a girl. But, thanks! I've probably never heard it because we are never usually talking about all females.
I just said "Nosotras" ... I wanted to say again because of my mistake.But it became true!!!!
I said nosotrOs.....(somos mujeres) and they counted it wrong and said it was nosotrAs...... (why was it wrong?)
Nosotros is if there is AT LEAST ONE MALE in the group. If EVERYONE IS FEMALE then it is Nosotras
I wrote " We are wives " but it says i can write it and it tells me im wrong......
Nosotros, Nosotras. I am having trouble understanding when to use one or the other.
Nosotros = a group of men. We (male)
Nosotras = a group of women. We (female)
Nosotros = a group of women and men. We (whatever)
See, almost all (not all, remember I said not all, I don't say all, just giving you a way to remeber the genders more easly) feminine (female) words end with A, and almost all (not all) masculine (male) words end with O.
Yes. Some examples:
y (and) o (or) ni (nor) pero (but) tan (so) ...
We clasify them in groups (conjunciones adversativas, copulativas, etc)
Please see YumiV's comment above. Then, memorize it. This is one of the most important verbs in Spanish.
i put 'we are wives' ( it said so in the translations ) and it counted it as wrong...?
I typed in "we are wives" and it told me I'm wrong. But when you hover over the word it says "wives" is an acceptable translation...
"Mujeres" usually, in the vast majority of cases, means woman. However, when used as "mi mujer", it literally means "my woman", but translates to "my wife". Other examples of the use of "mujer" as wife might be "soy su mujer", "la mujer de..."
It's like the Old English "my lady." It's the same in French "la femme" usually means "the woman", whereas "ma femme" usually means "my wife."
You can't tell whether the speaker means wives from the context. And using the word for woman to imply wife could also just mean girlfriend. I want to say that this usage is slang but I'm not positive.
I didn't mean mujeres was slang. I apologize if I wasn't specific enough. I was referring to the usage of mujer as synonymous for wife.
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It shouldn't in this phrase, but you can use "my woman" (mi mujer) to your wife... at least in Spanish.
Because you can say "my woman" to your wife in Spanish. And... I guess in some religions have more than one... But, you know, all wives are women, but all women are not wives.
The verbs are always for both male and female (except the "gerundio" and "participio" tenses, but this is another topic).
I wrote we are woman and they wanted me to write it in plural as women. I don't think they should have counted me as wrong!
Duolingo is forgiving on some misspelling, however when you change the word or context, then they will mark it wrong. After after "we are woman" is not a correct sentence agreement in English. Also, the purpose of this lesson is to learn plural forms, so woman vs women is important :)
SanneStam, nosotros is masculine, mujeres(women!) is feminine ergo, nosotRAS
Omg whenever i use nosotros i always fail and i show off everyone at school that i know spanish using the translator
i wrote we are women and it said it was wrong because i didnt capitalize the w in we
Axe_Lover, i'd try again. i NEVER capitalize or use punctuation and am never marked wrong
If you want to mean "gender" with "thing", yes. But if you want to say the two words mean the same, no, they aren't.
why do i get it wrong so stupid women woman last question its ok to get that wrong this is spanish class not english
So nosotrAs (with a) is for men and nosotrOs (with an o) is for women... correct?
The exact opposite.
Nosotras ---> Group completely consisting of women. Nosotros ----> Group of Men or a Mixed group (even if majority are women).
i guessed even though i had no idea and frankly i got it right! but this really confuses me can someone please help?
Is it okay if I said "We are ladies" because that basically means that same thing
im correct but it sas im wrong ugh >:( +whats the awnser i dont like this one
yuridado, what is "ares"? the verb for nostros (in the present tense) will always end in -MOS, i.e., soMOS, estaMOS, viviMOS, comeMOS, sabeMOS, etc.
No it's not. Explain further why you think this and why you commented instead of reporting.
Maybe in an ancient religious country. All women are not allways and ever wives. A wife is a married woman, so, you can't say all "mujeres" are wives,
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"We're women" IS a complete sentence. It's the same as we are women, but we and are are contracted into "we're."