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Allow option to "proceed" despite errors

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In the last lessons (Spanish, lvl 10) I am becoming increasingly frustrated! The bot is getting more and more demanding and bitchy to the point that I have found myself taking snapshots of the answers and corrections in order to pass the level - on the 3rd or 4th attempt even with the extra life. The bot doesn't forgive obvious typos, demands the English translation to be exactly as he wants it - including the order of the words. The last straw - it doesn't accept "May we touch the bike?"! which is the more correct than "Can we touch the bike?"!!! So I have found myself concentrating on satisfying the bot rather than learning Spanish and easily see that this will cause me to abandon duolingo despite being passionate about the approach and what they do. Another thing - if "tocar la bateria" always means "play the drums" and never "touch the battery" - either show this in the hints or do not fail me on that! Just allow "Accept" the answer button or the option to move on to the next lesson. Also, "report problem" should automatically give back the life that was lost due to the answer. Anybody feels the same?

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/CattleRustler

Your level (10) is not indicative of where you are in the tree, since you can gain points doing lesson and/or vocabulary practice. Where exactly in the tree are you? Maybe you are at one of the notorious "turning points" (like object pronouns) where things become very difficult, then very clear. Let us know where you are and we can try and help.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Noello
Noello
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I am currently at V.Pres.3, Yet I do not think that this is the problem with the "things become very difficult". IMHO it is more of more options for the AI to get it wrong. Like in the example above "may" vs. "can", or the one here: "El no puede nadar", I translated as "he does not know how to swim" and it failed me saying "cannot". While I choose "does not know" since it failed me two sentences before with "cannot write". "Yo corto la manzana" - the hint says corto:cut/cut off/cut out; So why does it fail me on "I cut off the apple"? I mean, being a programmer, I can understand that AI can misfire sometime and will improve with more mileage, but it would be nice if there was a way to at least not to have to waste time doing the lesson again and again due to such things.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CattleRustler

I am also a programmer (mundo pequeno) but your examples in your latest post are in fact wrong, not compared to real life, but literally as to what is being asked...

"El no puede nadar" - E'l (he) no puede (cannot) Nadar (inf. to swim) is He cannot swim. It's not asking you about anything he knows, which a completely different verb. So while logically you may be correct in your statement and sentiment, at the end of the day, they werent asking what he knows, just about his actions. What if he knows how to swim but has a broken arm? He still cannot swim, even though he knows how. The other apple example is pretty much more of the same. It is unnatural to say cut off the apple, unless you mean from the tree, especially when Cut was present as the number 1 word in the peek.

Moral of the story, be more literal in your answers (but know when to not use the peeks/hints literally) as to what it is asking, and inject less (although logically correct) sentiment / words in your answers, and you will be correct more often than not.

Hope this helps

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Noello
Noello
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nfortunately sometimes it just doesn't work - like in the case of "can vs. may". Again with the "cannot/know how" it was that a couple of sentences before it was just the opposite, so I tried to "double guess it" :). Overall I think it is a great program, just sometimes I wish it could "cut a little slack" or there was an option to tell it "come on this was a typo!!"

Thanks for the tip to be more literal, hope it will get better...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CattleRustler

I hear you and I agree. Hopefully the tip will improve the experience for you :) Buena suerte, mi amigo!

4 years ago