Finally reached level 25 in German, :-)
Well, I admit, it was am amazing 130 days. I really enjoyed the journey. I haven't finished my (new) German tree though, so I guess I'll hang around for a while to finish the tree & make it gold, I plan to to that slowly, kind of like reviewing the vocabularies.
Next on my list is French, I hope with the experiences I learned during learning German, by adjusting my language learning techniques & strategies, I can reach a decent level in French more efficient way.
I wish you all amazing Duo-ers a great time & good luck with your language learning.
I thought maybe to share my experiences with you guys. Although everybody has his/her own preferences, but I do believe what follows could help you a lot:
1) I recommend you to start your language learning process by "Michel Thomas." His language courses are more than amazing; believe me, it would be an investment you would not regret. He'll teach you the grammar of your targeted language the most efficient way, without even you trying to memorize any of the stuff. By the end of his course - fundamental (8 hours), advanced (5 hours), builder (2hours) vocabulary (5 hours) - you'll achieve a decent level of your target language in just a short amount of time.
Of course, you may need to practice the courses more than one time. A word of advice if you decide to go with Michel Thomas: please do obey the grand rules he mentions for his course, it really is in your best interest. You'll know what I mean if you take his course.
2) For conversation, I'll suggest "Assimil German with Ease," or whatever your target language is. They have covered multiple languages, too. I believe "Assimil" & "Michel Thomas" are very great courses together. They boost your language in just a short amount of time.
As for Assimil, it's basically 100 lessons, with CD. Each day you're supposed to learn one lessen. Again, here, you're not supposed to memorize the stuff. Just by the power of immersion, you'll be amazed how much you know at the end of the course. It's a great test of you're willpower, though, to read each day one lesson for 100 days. Each lesson would take about 20minutes at the most. It also teaches you grammar & boosts your vocabulary significantly.
3) Finally, there is Duolingo. The feature of Duo I like the most is its immersion section. Also I use the tree as a way of reviewing what I've learned already by mastering "Michel Thomas" "Assimil." But Duo's immersion part is an excellent source that if you use it wisely dramatically boosts your language skill.
Specifically, as soon as you are done with your tree, start the immersion. Don't go for sophisticated sentences, simpler sentences or even vocabularies are good enough for the start. I'd recommend reading the translations of those people who are already +10 in their language tiers, of course you want to read long and more sophisticated sentences and learn from them. That will help a lot.
I guess that is it. I also recommend reading a book that you like. Specifically, say you're good enough in English - or even it's your native language - it's a good practice to get a book that is available both in English German (or whatever your target language is). I also found this very helpful.
As for listening skill, I know lots of people recommend watching movies and the like. But I prefer short stories. I find them way more efficient than films.
That's it from me, enjoy learning fellows :-)
I don't really like Michel Thomas because when the students are wrong, it makes me think I'm messing up. I rather use Pimsleur's instead. But each to their own.
Assimil German with Ease is a great choice. I love that series, but sadly, knowing French is the best way to go with that book series. The English versions are lacking and hardly updated. It took them forever to release the Russian with Ease.
Since you did bring up Assimil. I would really suggest you use Assimil French with Ease before doing duolingo's French. I do not like the audio on the French course. Also, it's probably help with pronunciation. I have both books.
Oh, I admit. It was like a shock when you I read you don't really like Michel. But, I do believe everyone has her/his own style. :-)
As for Pimsleur, I tried the German version once. It seemed to me too much slow. Na ja, these are all tools and the important thing is that we enjoy our journey towards mastering our target language. :-)
Thanks for the advice. I am now more determined to first do Assimil (and of course Michel :-D ) and then return to Duo for French. I find the power of Duo as a reviewing (in tree section) and consolidating (in the immersion section)
All the best :-)
Since I have both Spanish and German Assimil also, I plan to use them after I finish the Spanish/German trees, then maybe hit up Dutch or Russian with Japanese.
Congratulations man :) I have just one question for you. Did you first finish Michael Thomas courses and then proceeded to the Assimil courses or did you do the simultaneously?
hey, thanks. I would recommend ''mastering'' at least the ''fundamental'' & the ''advanced'' courses of Michel Thomas. This gives you - I believe in the most efficient way - a very good command of the language grammar as well as basic vocabularies. Remember that I said ''mastering,'' so you may need to go over the course more than once. Take your time, don't rush.
After that, you can start the way you want. I personally suggest doing all the ''Michel Thoma'' first, and then starting the ''Assimil.'' But this is my style. :-)
Good luck :-)
I also like the Michel Thomas courses very much indeed, and highly recommend them as a great complement to Duolingo. They work on a different principle to Duo, because the emphasis is on understanding the structure of the language, with simple explanations of what is going on.
However they are quite expensive to buy. As a free (and legal!) alternative I suggest the Language Transfer audio courses. These are very similar to the Michel Thomas method, but are completely free to download and use. I found the Complete Spanish course very helpful indeed, and the first 25 tracks of Complete German, which will be 15 to 20 hours of audio when it is finished, are now being released.
Great work!! I'm only 436 points removed from level 25 and I can't wait to get to it (probably tomorrow...).
Have you tested yourself? It is interesting to take the DW test, not so much for the level but to identify weak and strong areas. Thanks for sharing the resources.
hey Lorel90 :-)
Thanks. I took your advice and just finished it. I enrolled at B1, and scored 82%. They recommended me to go for B2 in order to continue improving my German.
alles Gute :-)
Congratulations!! I'm still level 11, but I "conquered the German skill tree"
Thanks, that's awesome, keep up the good work. I'd recommend starting the "immersion" part as soon as you can. It could seem intimidating, but at the beginning just go for simpler sentences and force yourself to do it. If it is wrong, hopefully folks will correct you. After a while, it just comes natural to you. All the best :-)
Congrats! I've kind of hit the point where I feel like I need a break from it. This helped inspire me... I want to succeed and make it to that level!
hey, in my experience, break is a BAD idea. you may want to slow down a bit, but never ever stop, you could review what you've already learn, for example. Never lose the momentum :-)
Congratulations mate :) Thanks for the advice. I speak three languages and I want to learn the 4th one which is German.I took your advice about Michel Thomas' language courses and I downloaded them. I'm gonna study slow and steady everyday because I really want to learn it.
hey Faton444, That's awesome. You're gonna love it. Please respect the ground rules that Michel sets, i.e., don't make any notes, don't try to memorize and the most important one is to participate, really think and answer. He really knows what he's doing and it's in our best interest. :-)
So, what are the other 3 languages by the way that you speak? :-)
Toll! Herzlichen Glückwunsch. Aber ich würde gern hier ein paar Deutsche Wörter sehen ;-) Deutsch ist für mich eine total schwere Sprache. Fühlst du dich komfortable jetzt mit der Sprache?
hey lancehwison, vielen Dank. du hast Recht. :-) ich wollte auf Deutsch schreiben, aber das finde ich noch etwas schwer.
komfortabel? kurz und gut, sage ich ja. Ich kann mich natürlich leicht verständlich machen, besonders beim Sprachen; obwohl ich noch anspruchsvolle Wörter nicht benutzen kann. Also, mein schwieriges Problem ist, daß ich noch auf Englisch denke; deutsche Mentalität habe ich noch nicht. Aber ich kann sagen, daß ich auf ganz richtigem Weg bin. Noch mehr Übing - Bücher lesen, auch ich finde Interviews besonders sehr gut - und das Problem wird ja auch langsam gelöst werden.
alles Gute :-)
Das ist fantastisch! Ich wünsche mir dass ich in die Zukunft besser verstehen, schreiben, lesen, und sprechen kann. Danke für deine Zeit. Tschüss.
Hei, herzliche Glückwünsche! Großartig. Deine Texte auf Deutsch lesen sich wirklich gut! Alles Gute für Deine weiteren Projekte.
You had 25 upvotes, I thought it was quite appropriate, so I hesitated... But still upvoted you all the same, hehe.
Congrats on your achievement, that's quite inspiring. Et bon courage avec le français ;)
I find German and French very similar. My brain finds many connections. I believe that German is many times more similar to English than French on the other hand. Good Luck!
My French is still rusty. But I do believe that German & French have quite similarities. Cases, genders, ...
But it is my understanding that French is more similar to English; in fact, when things get complicated, German sentence structure are totally different than English. I'll see. :-)
Thanks & good luck to you too :-)
That's awesome, congrats. I had some exposure to German before I join to Duo, that's why it took me less amount of time. :-)
Keep up the great work & good luck with your study. :-)
Congratulations. I am pretty close to reaching level 25 and am very excited.
Hey Emma, that's awesome. keep up the great work. I would recommend that you start participating in the "immersion" section, too; start small, it really is a powerful tool and helps you to consolidate what you've already learned. Enjoy learning :-)
Thank you :) And I think I will start doing immersion to help with my German skills.
hey, I don't say it is easy, but when we really want to do something, we make it happen. don't we? :-)
I suggest you to not think about the end. Just do your daily exercises and review daily. It takes time. Don't rush it. You want to learn the language. Enjoy your learning journey.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! :)
Ich wollte schon immer mein Deutsch verbessern aber ich wusste nicht genau wie ich da am besten ansetze. Meine Grammatik ist denke ich noch immer ziemlich schwach. Verstehen tue ich fast alles was erzählt wird, aber selber sprechen oder Sätze bilden fällt mir immer SEHR schwer!:)) Bin ich A2 oder B1? Ich wüsste nicht mal in welche Kategorie ich gehöre :)
Heute startet die zweite Woche meiner Unterrichtszeit auf Duolingo. Nun, was kann ich sagen... Duolingo motiviert, jeden Tag wenigstens ein bisschen zu üben :) In letzter Zeit habe ich realtiv viel mit Deutsch zu tun. Mir gefällt wirklich das Konzept dieser Webseite!
Ich wünsche euch allen viel Glück und Erfolg :)
If you wrote that without much checking using google translate etc. then I'd be surprised if you're anything less than B1.
I've been to Germany many times, I know basics and I understand almost everything people speak about. I can read newspapers, for example, every day I check main news on Spiegel.de, and I have no difficulties with understanding :) but it takes a lot of time to create german sentences myself. I just need to think which case to use and so on. For English I don't need that, and my biggest wish now to know German at least at the same degree as my English is :)
Hi Olja93, ich danke dir :-)
ehrlich gesagt, bin ich ziemlich beeindruckt bei deinm kurzen Essay. :-) das ist wirklich ausgezeichnet. Du kannst deine Fähigkeit auf Deutsche Welle checken. Sie haben einen Teil für ''Einstufungstest''. Nur geh auf ''http://einstufungstest.dw.de/'' und registerie dich für A2.
Alles gute bei deinem Studium. Das wichtige ist, daß du immer täglich, sogar ein bißchen, versuchst, um dein Deutsch zu verbessern. :-)
Danke sehr für den Link. Ich bin mit meinem Ergebnis sehr zufrieden :)
On October 18, 2015, 1:26 am you took the Deutsch Welle placement test at the of the Common European Framework of Reference (CEFR). You attempted 30 of the 30 questions which took a total of 22:33 minutes.
Your overall result is 92%.
Excellent! You have not only achieved the CEFR A2 competence level. You are already well on the way to the next level B1. If you would like to continue improving your German, you should enroll for a course that is already working towards B1."
Ich denke, dass kann ich B1 mal versuchen. Bin aber nicht sicher. Die Zeit wird's zeigen :) Danke jedenfalls!
ausgezeichnet, das ist ja toll, du bist gerade nur um Level 11 :-) ich wünsche dir gutes Gelingen :-)
I'd try B2 if I were you. Maybe even try the C1 just to see how much of a challenge it is?