J'ai fini mon arbre français!
It may have taken me a few years to do so on and off, but I've finally done it!
The only problem is I feel like I've been very good at the 'game' element of Duolingo, but comprehension wise my most recent score on the quiz is a measly 1.41/5.0. The most frustrating thing is that I don't feel like my French has strengthened further than the basics I used to know in school about 7 years ago.
I'm still gilding my tree, but I was wondering what's the most common next step once completing a tree. I know there's the reverse-tree but wondered how useful it is? Are there certain websites people tend to 'graduate' onto?
Try this free online French lending library. Registration is required but it is very easy. You can read books in your browser or download them to devices using Adobe Digital Editions software (free from Adobe). The "Jeunesse - albums et romans" section at the bottom of the page contains the most books.
Thank you, definitely bookmarked this as I was thinking of heading to my local library to see if they had any easy french novels in their MFL section.
How useful is the reverse tree? Imagine having to answer mostly in French instead of in English! (Hint: turn off the mic/speaker at the settings page in order to avoid English/English exercises).
The reverse tree is where the real value of Duolingo lies.
Congrats on finishing your French tree!
Seconded. It's especially useful if you got the "easy" French tree where the emphasis was on French -> English translations.
Thank you for this comment, I had never seen the value of doing the reverse tree. There is also the option of laddering, German for french speakers perhaps.
DuoLingo is conducting an A/B study on this tree. Some people are lumped into a group that emphasizes E-to-F translations [harder], while others are lumped into a group that emphasizes F-to-E translations [easier]. There were a couple of threads on this a few months ago. You can also read this small article about DuoLingo's practice of using A/B testing: Click Here
Wait, so if i do get mostly French to English translations, is that bad? How do I change it?
Mostly French to English is normal. After you finish all the exercises, learn English as a French speaker and you will have to answer mostly in French; that way you will learn to write in French and not just translate French into English.
Thank you, I thought it was only the French tree which had been... 'improved' as I do remember the harder old tree (and the three hearts made it even worse!!). So I thought maybe in the reverse tree I'd only be practicing English, which I don't need to (in theory), as it's the only language I do know! But if it's mostly French I'll definitely be continuing with the reverse tree.
Update, followed your instructions to turn off the English exercises and THANK YOU!!! In just a couple of days as I'm just answering in French I've realised parts where I've been going wrong and why I score so badly in the progress tests making little mistakes. Definitely converted to the reverse tree!
Ooo thanks!!! I had signed up to Lingvist and starting doing the 'Memorise' section but I couldn't then remember what the website was to get back on it. So thanks, now I have it again!!
Congrats!!! I have about 5 sections left to finish it too. My knowledge of french went from zero to 4/10. It's still better than nothing.
Congratulations! I share your sentiment about the desire to continue growing beyond the tree. :) Even with much less progress than you, I feel the need to apply what I'm learning, beyond playing the game. For me, this might include writing in French (and Spanish) so that I can use the many words I've acquired. Creating original thoughts/expression in a foreign language is a different mental process than memorization and might assist you in getting more grist for your language mill.
Better yet, travel! Hop on a plane at your next opportunity and immerse yourself in the language. That's "application" at its best.
That's my two cents! Hope it helps!
Thank you, think I'll definitely start writing in French as in school that's where I learnt most of the vocab/grammar by having to work out/look up things.
Unfortunately even though I live on the other side of the channel from France, I'm currently unemployed so hopping on a coach is still a bit of a stretch at the moment.
I was also watching YouTube yesterday -- there are a lot of great French programs to watch (I stick with kids' stuff -- the vocabulary is simpler). Bonne chance!
My tip is to try to find an actual person to speak with and use the target language in context as early and often as possible (speaking with someone flicks a switch in your brain and you learn faster). Accept making mistakes (you will learn faster if you say something wrong rather than nothing)!
Next best is to find someone online http://www.italki.com/partners
Here are some websites for additional practice
Thank you for the links! Think I might have to pluck up the courage and speak to people, I've been avoiding it like the plague so far.
First of all, congratulations!!!!
Yeah, I'm around 3/4 on my tree, and I have trouble with comprehension. The best thing to do is practice (find someone, or if it's hard to find someone like in my situation, use sites like Italki.com). For instance, I'm taking my Spanish lessons very slowly compared to my French, but my Spanish seems to be improving faster because I get to practice with people around me (and I hear it a lot here in Chicago).
Anywho, keep up the fantastic work! Keep those lessons gold and definitely use other resources. :-)
Felicitation pour ton arbre français !!
Congratulation for your french tree !!
Well...I just started my tree 35 days ago. I had about 7 yrs of school French, and spent 2 summers in France. When I did my Duolingo placement test I scored 1% fluency :). I notice there are many other sources of free French instruction on line. You might check them out. Perhaps a great next step would be French film.
Any recommendations? I'm bad with films in general let alone those not in English! haha I'm more a binge-watch TV person as opposed to films. Like at the moment I love that Channel 4 are showing Les Revenants over here.
You go to settings and at the bottom of the menu you should find a button that says choose file beside your default picture !
Congratulations--once I finished the tree, I kept going each day doing review and lots of translating in the immersion section. I've also gone to the Gutenberg Project and downloaded French language books. My reading comprehension has increased amazingly since I started almost a year ago (less 5 days), but my listening and speaking skills are not at the same level, so I'm now downloading youtube sessions and trying to find podcasts or streaming radio stations in French and Italian--not as good as being in the country and with native speakers, but since I can't do that, I'm hoping all of this will help. Good luck!
Ooo thanks I've bookmarked Gutenberg now. Like you my reading and writing is A LOT stronger than my listening and speaking skills (have always been), so I like the idea of podcasts / radio. I've been trying to find lots of new French artists to listen to, listening to the songs a couple of times and then reading through the lyrics to differentiate between words when it just sounds like a big jumble of sounds. That's definitely been interesting and been improving my listening skills. As in songs I find they often sing slower than they would speak
Easier said than done, hate speaking to strangers in my native tongue (English) let alone in a foreign language!
I am still progressing through the tree at this point (about half way done). Aside from Duolingo, I compliment my french studies by
a) Every now and then I try to express a thought in French verbally, and then check Google Translate (app for phone is nice) to see if I got it right. This helps me practice talking in French a bit. b) Downloading French subtitles for English movies.
I suspect once I finish the tree I will focus more on reading French books and writing in French, and watching TV or listening to radio in French. Important thing is to keep at it because languages are learned over time.