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- "Lei scrive nel giornale."
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Suggestion, it would be good to have in the pop up menu of the words, the variations in italian, like for example nel, nello, etc so that people can take note of the different variations. because i've seen nel and nello, but what happens when its plural feminine is it nella? I'm just starting here and the only trouble i'm having is having to find all those different cases by chance, would be nice to be able to get all variation and be able to write them down. just a suggestion. Thank you!
I highly recommend making certain you are grounded in the forms and rules for the definite articles. Much of what you need to know for other parts of the Italian language will flow from that. You can get a handy chart of the basic forms for the most common prepositions here http://italian.about.com/library/fare/blfare153a.htm
and you should be able to find a discussion entry on this site under the most popular that lists a number of resources other members have been kind enough to post for everyone.
Your question is a common one, it comes up again and again. I think it would be great if DL would provide some explanations for things like this--there are some things that would help everyone learn better rather than simple exposure and hoping everyone can figure it out on their own.
This is a great link, it helped me a lot :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/italian/tutors/grammar/language_notes/al.shtml
If you want to know when to use "il, gli, la, i" etc. Go to this link: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/815852/Il-lo-l-la-i-gli-le
I hope it was helpful :)
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here is another with a more comprehensive grammar.http://www.uvm.edu/~cmazzoni/3grammatica/grammatica/
so is it she writes on the (physical) newspaper or for the newspaper itself? or both?
It can be either one. It just depends on the situation the sentence is used in.
Why do we say "Lei scrivE" but also "Lei mangiA"? Why in first case it is ended with E but in second case it is ended with A?
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There are 3 different conjugations in Italian: you need to check the infinite form to see them.
1) -are. Ex. parlare
io parlo
tu parli
lui/lei parla
noi parliamo
voi parlate
essi parlano
2) scrivere
io scrivo
tu scrivi
lui/lei scrive
noi scriviamo
voi scrivete
essi scrivono
3) sentire
io sento
tu senti
lui/lei sente
noi sentiamo
voi sentite
essi sentono
It's the contraction of "in" and "il". But contractions are mandatory in Italian.
There's great book called Living Italian by Maria Vaglimigli, which explains all the grammer really well. You can buy it from Amazon
"Lo" is used before nouns starting with s + consonant or z (which zucchero does); "il" is used for all other nouns (except vowels, in which case it would have to be "l'").They both mean the masculine "the".
If a word starts with a vowel, the article here should also be lo, is that correct?
Hi Lycidasss,
No, I think it has to be contracted to l' (as in "l'uomo"). All other nouns not starting with (s + consonant) or z (in which case it will have to be "lo") will be "il".
A lot of language rules are actually very convenient if you think about it. For example, the "l" and "s/z" sounds do not exactly roll off the tongue. So, there is another article! Also, using an article that starts with a vowel but ends with a consonant is okay for words starting with vowels, but that short "i" sound could be taken away, and so it is. If some rule/exception in Italian, or any of the other Romantic languages for that matter ( I don't have that much knowledge of other groups of languages like Slavic, so), is confusing or seemingly pointless, take a look at the possible benefits or conveniences from that rule/exception as opposed to the normal way or the way from your language (if your language is Romantic or English, at least). Apologies for any weird wording in this comment.
Don't give up, just keep on learning. As a matter of fact, Itaien is a much easier language to learn, comparing with german.
The 'nel' sounded like 'una' though I knew that giornale is masculine, and I didn't know that it was nel, so i wrote una, but I knew it was wrong, so I was just giving up a life. They totally need better pronunciation.
Use nello when the article would be lo. For example: lo zucchero. Nello zucchero. Nel is for when the article is Il
She writes for the newspaper, it made more sense for my translation, she writes in the journal (diary).
Journals can also be newspapers. In the French lessons, journal is an accepted translation for the word for newspaper. I wonder why it is not so in the Italian lessons...
I think "on" should be the correct answer, right? after all people can't get IN the newspaper and write.
If you're asking for the correct ENGLISH, either "in" or "on" could be correct. Newspapers usually open up, like books, so one could write "in" a newspaper. But I guess you are correct in the we would usually say "don't write ON my newspaper". I am wondering, though, whether in ITALIAN this really means "She writes FOR a newspaper"- ie, that is her JOB- she is a columnist....?
The two words are interchangeable in Italian. But "writes in the newspaper" is sometimes used to mean writing FOR the newspaper, I think. Either way, on SHOULD be correct too.
Shouldn't it be "Lei scrive fo il giornale" (She writes for the newspaper) Instead of she writes in the newspaper?
My answer should be accepted: "giornale" can mean "journal" as well as "newspaper/paper."
No, it really can't: journal and newspaper are different things with different translations, and they only overlap in rare cases, if ever.
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no. if you are referring to the slow recitation, she always overemphasizes the 'l' in 'nel', 'al' and other first person, singular preposition/article contranctions. don't focus on the articles and pronouns so much. the noun and pronoun/article (un/una, il/la) must agree. if the noun is masculine she isn't saying 'nella'.
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I played it over and over and I clearly hear nel.
Is that the normal version or the slow over?
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because she emphasizes the 'L' it often does sound like 'nella'. don't concentrate on the articles, but recognize the gender of the noun. if it is masculine it must be a masculine article (or preposition + article)
try emphasizing a word with a final 'L' and you will find that you have a hard time letting it finish without adding a vowel to the end.
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"She writes in the journal" isn't accepted.
Giornale sounds like the literal translatio for journal, but im not an italian speaker so i don't know!
Hi. I was wondering: Does this mean she is a writer for the newspaper and writes the articles in it or does she simply write on an already printed newspaper?
What does this mean in real life? She writes (notes, comments) in the newspaper or she writes for the newspaper? This sentence is very unclear to me.
Yes. In english it is preferable to translate this as "She writes for a newspaper" , not " in the newspaper". At a minimum both should be acceptable.
