https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

supplemental textbook suggestions for DuoLingo Turkish

Hello, I'm enjoying DuoLingo Turkish a great deal, and I practice everyday!

But, I have a problem: There are times when I want some kind of supplemental text that I can refer to.

Now, under the "free" category, Teach Yourself Turkish and Turkish in Three Months are available to be downloaded as .pdf's in various spots. There are a number of great websites.

One problem I have with the texts is that there's quite a commitment to learning a ton of vocabulary right from the outset. The other problem is that these texts quickly move in their own direction, away from DuoLingo. And, if you're not coming along, you're quickly lost. Think of the different ways that verbs and cases have their suffixes abstracted.

This week, however, I was introduced to a book that I had heard of before, but I had never seen. Another freebie, it's Elementary Turkish by Lewis V. Thomas. For whatever reasons, this book has so far complemented and enriched DuoLingo Turkish rather than compete with it.

Anyone know of this book? I've never known a book or site to be so crystal clear about the general grammar rules--and the exceptions. There are plenty of rote translation exercises. Yeah, it ain't bad, but if anyone knows of better, please post! I will warn you, though, it's symbolism for summarizing suffixes can seem pretty wild at first.

October 23, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

I want to thank you all. Taking this course with you all is like being in a room really smart and inquisitive people--much smarter than me. I was able to find every book recommended here for free or at very reasonable prices--and all these have made the learning experience that much deep.

November 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexinNotTurkey

Awesome! Kolay gelsin!

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sapphire1717

Great! glad you found them easily!

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sapphire1717

This is a really good one: "The Delights of Learning Turkish" by Yasar Esendal Kuzucu, the explanations are very clear with lots of examples, also, "201 Turkish Verbs" is great, it gives you all the conjugations.

October 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

Dear Sapphire1717, Gosh, why have I been waiting?:-) The Delights of Learning Turkish has often been recommended. Now I have it! Thank you so much for reminding me. I'm glad it starts at the beginner level.

October 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jzlcdh

Perhaps there should be (maybe there is already somewhere?) a page or sticky listing resources. If so I think they should be sortable by level.

Re a grammar book on paper (which I prefer but it is also on Kindle) for intermediate (NOT elementary) level I recommend "The Turkish Language Explained for English Speakers". Despite the author's retirement it seems he is still active: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R3PEO10D4TVUAR/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0473265087

October 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

That book looks very nice. Thank you. I hope to look at it.

October 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

jzlcdh, I found Turkish language Explained for English Speakers on Kindle for a nifty $10. Oh, yes, it's over my head! But it's a real pleasure to read a book that lays everything out with so many great examples. Now, when I'm beating my head against the keyboard, I can send my loved some very good nuggets of what I'm dealing with that day! Thank you for the good advice.

October 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

Well, I might have to take back what I initially thought about Lewis Thomas' Elementary Turkish. This is another of those situations where, as jzlcdh recommended earlier, it would be good to have some kind of sticky with a posting of various resources and perhaps some assessments.

I thought that Thomas' text might be a good complement to DuoLingo--one that does not move too hard in its own direction, and that moves forward without a lot of vocabulary to learn upfront.

Then I got to Ch.5, on learning the Past Tense, the first of the verb conjugations. And there were pages and pages and pages describing how vowel harmony would work on different dominant vowels. Sheesh! Better to give the general rules for vowel harmony and maybe twenty representative verbs--and then conjugate by rule and harmony as a set of exercises. It's much better to get the general principle--and very much better to be introduced to vowel harmony a little at a time, as your DuoLingo Turkish does.

Then, there are the problems of denoting all this. As was noted in a comment in GoodReads, '"-DIr" is infinitely more readable than "-t/d V^4 r". Yep, much easier to type also. Lastly, there is at least one comment on the Internet as to how authentic is the Turkish taught in this particular book.

I'm sure I'm not done struggling with supplemental texts. I need them when it comes to Turkish. Every day is a steep, but rewarding, climb. I may go back to TeachYourselfTurkish, and--to supplement that in turn--Turkish in three Months.

October 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexinNotTurkey

I would also suggest "Yeni Hitit" made by Tömer, which is the primary school for teaching Turkish in Turkey. There are also pdf's available online for it. Be warned though, the book is entirely in Turkish except for a very small index in the back.

I do not know about the book that you talked about, but I do know of a few other Turkish textbooks. :)

October 23, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

Alex, always pleased to hear from you! Yes, I'll take any suggestions you got.

I do, by the way, like the other two books I've mentioned. It's just a heck of a lot harder to get the information that I need out of them quickly.

I've just downloded Yeni Hitit. Yes, it sure is all in Turkish! But it looks like familiar classroom Turkish, with a heck of a lot more cognates.

October 23, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexinNotTurkey

I drew a fair amount of information from the first two books when I was focusing on curriculum development. It should (mostly) go well with the course as well.

October 23, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/giscowboy

Both are good. There's just a heck of a lot of initial "buy-in" with these two books. Any book that wishes to describe to me, in some detail, vowel harmony in the first few pages is apt to lose me. And then there are lists, and lists, and lists . . .Teach Yourself Turkish has this slight advantage to me of being very British and literate and very arch. I love how, on page 2, he recommends you "turn the telly off, and pour yourself a tall drink . . ."

October 23, 2015
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