I completed my German tree! ...again
So I've just been through the German tree to regain my trophy. I spread the workload over the last couple of weeks. There were a number of 'new' words which was nice to see; a refreshing change for Duolingo. Some of them I was already familiar with from other sources, (Fuchs, Eule, etc.) and some I hadn't encountered (a Käfer is a beetle, who would have known!).
A lot of the work was going through stuff I'd already done that had been reorganised into new lessons, which was unfortunate. So there were relatively fewer new words compared to the number of 'new lessons' that were introduced.
Some lessons were like 7 questions long, making them pretty straightforward. But then some were over 20 questions for like 3/4 new words (with no wrong answers), and very few phrases. That was somewhat tedious, repeating the same phrases over and over again.
Apparently my fluency has gone down from 52% (on a pretty mature, golden tree), to 49%. Were there really that many words removed? This has actually dropped for some reason between starting and finishing the new tree. Has the algorithm for measuring fluency changed?
Overall, I like the fact that the tree has been improved, but am still holding out for more advanced lessons and phrases. I don't think I'm necessarily the target audience for the new tree, and would love to hear how users who have completed less of the tree/are newer on their journey are finding the changes.
Edit: In case it helps anyone, here is my text-based German Anki deck: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1475952340. I just passed the 6,000 card mark :-). I'm actually more happy about that than re-completing the tree.
So, every time you learn a new word or phrase in Duolingo, you add it (immediately) to your anki deck? That is a great idea. If I may ask? What do you use to study (duolingo and anki): desktop computer, laptop, tablet or ipad? Is it easy to switch between the two? How long did it take to study the tree the first time (what were your goal settings: casual, regular, insane, ...)
Not immediately. I had a list of words saved up for a few weeks once due to laziness ;-). And not always. When I started doing this, I only really added words that I struggled with on Duolingo. These days I'm a bit more liberal.
I use my laptop/PC to do Duolingo. The app is slow and tedious and not thorough enough for language learning. And switching between languages on a phone keyboard isn't exactly the fastest thing in the world either. I will only ever use the phone version when I've not had an opportunity all day.
Anki, on the other hand, I study on my phone. The app for Android is free, and it's pretty easy to use for revising cards. I add cards on either my phone or PC depending what I'm doing. Switching between them requires a sync, however, which is more awkward than Duolingo, and may take a minute in the worst case.
It probably took me about two years to do the tree originally. There was no goal setting back then. I tried to do about 100 coins per day for the most part, but didn't always meet it. I also did mostly practice sessions/Strengthen Skills. I know some people prefer to zoom through the tree in a few months, but I found about halfway through the tree I was struggling a lot to remember some of the previous material, so only progressed when I was more or less comfortable with the previous stuff. So only one skill or less at a time.
I'm enjoying the process of getting through the new portions. I really don't pay attention to fluency percentage at all. I can read, speak, and write German much better than I can do any of those things in Spanish, but Duo says my fluency is Spanish is higher. (48 Prozent Deutsch im vergleich zu 53 Prozent Spanisch).
Jedenfalls, sehr gut geleistet!
I do like the new tree. There were some funny phrases that I enjoyed in some of the lessons too. It seemed to have more personality than the older tree.
I'm pretty excited about the new German tree update. I haven't been able to work on it yet because I'm so focused with my French. Anyways.. Congratulations on completing your German tree again!
Congratulations. I am almost done with my "new" tree as well. I have only a little bit left to do. My percentage was 49% after completing my old tree and now even if my new tree is not completely done yet I still have 49% and I do not think it will go higher. I have never have more then 49% even though I had finished my old tree completely and had all skills golden. But who know ... xD
I think it has a lot to do with the length of time the skills have been golden/the number of repetitions. My German went up to 53% once. And then dropped a few hours later. Duolingo clearly weren't happy with me.