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Tones in Norwegian

liammcniff
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I read on Wikipedia that Norwegian has two tones/accents that differentiate words from each other. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_language#Accent) I haven't seen this in the course or mentioned in any discussions here. Could someone explain this? Do I need to worry about this much as a beginner?

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Middangeard
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I don't think it's something you need to worry about too much as a beginner, but it will need to be something that you'll need to be aware of. The example of bønder vs. bønner will obviously be important when it comes to correct pronunciation and listening, but for reading you will be fine. The earlier you learn correct pronunciation, the better.

The other tonal pronunciations that it should have mentioned is in regards to the many "sh" sounds that are in Norwegian. TJ, SKJ, KJ, SJ, K, etc. each have their own type of harshness and way of saying the sound, so the basic SH doesn't necessarily suffice.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fveldig
fveldig
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TJ, SKJ, KJ, SJ, K, G, SH, CH, KKJ, J, SK, C, SCH, SGJ have merged into a single sound in some regions(±the t or s in other regions), and people here have a trouble distinguishing these, so not even all Norwegians can hear the difference.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Middangeard
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That's actually good to hear as it makes things slightly easier. Most courses I've seen overstress the importance of the distinction between all of these similar sounds.

I know I often have trouble distinguishing between them unless there are two in a word, like tjuesju.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Windrammer
Windrammer
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By all means, respect the sounds. There is a huge difference between kjede and skjede!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vikungen

The "tj" in "tjue" and "sj" in sju isn't the same sound at all though.

In the International Phonetic Alphabet:

kj = ç

sj = ʃ

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fveldig
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That depends on the region. Which may make it impossible to distinguish 'sjuende' from 'tjuende'.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vikungen

It is a new phenomenon that many of us Norwegians aren't able to produce the "kj" sound and thus replace it with the "sj" sound, it isn't regionally based, it is individually based.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Neco_Coneco
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Is the Norwegian pitch accent the same with the Swedish one?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Windrammer
Windrammer
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No.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Augustomlc
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I don`t think so, since it varies from region to region.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/brianl
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I started a new thread about this. https://www.duolingo.com/comment/25981909 Hopefully there will be more discussion and information there.

10 months ago
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