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If there is noun behind, it's always "das". E.g. "Das ist ein Haus." (This/That is a house.), "Das ist ein Buch." (This/That is a book.). It's the same for plural. E.g. "Das sind Häuser." (These/Those are houses), "Das sind Bücher." (These/Those are books.)
However, if there is a noun after, it depends on the gender, case, and singular/plural, as nkennely refered to. If it is nominative case singular, it's "der" for male, "die" for female and "das" for neuter. E.g. "Der Hund ist schwarz." (The dog is black.), "Die Wohnung ist klein." (The flat is small.), "Das Buch ist groß." (The book is big.).
If it's plural it's always "die". E.g. "Die Hunde sind schwarz." (The dogs are black.), "Die Wohnungen sind klein." (The flats are small.), "Die Bücher sind groß." (The books are big).
In other cases it could also be "dem", "den" etc.
Spot on. As to evil orange juices, you surely remember this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Killer_Tomatoes (Welcome to the dark side of movie production)
For me the sentence has taken the direct translation shlecht to be bad but I have found that sclecht is a strong German word so it could be rancid. I could use awfull. I am also unsure if the course is going according to modern standard american english, which many things are acceptable which in older british text books would not be qualifiable, or rather unaacceptable as good englis. I am making a new post hopefully a native german can clarify further
Fill your boots with this one:
http://www.canoo.net/services/WordformationRules/Komposition/WB-Elements/Fuge-en.html?country=D
Orangensaft would be noun+en+noun:
http://www.canoo.net/services/WordformationRules/Komposition/N-Comp/Nomen+N/N+en+N.html
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It would have been clearer when written Dieser Orangensaft ist schlecht as that would be a better backward translation of That orange juice is bad. which means a specific orange juice not just anyone. Der Orangensaft could be both any orange juice and a specific one if pointed towards or in a direct context where no other orange juice is around. The part ist schlecht can also mean two versions one being bad or rotten in essential you should not drink it anymore or bad in a health related matter because of sugar or intolerance (though that might be a bit far fetched in the context of orange juice)
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Not going into the details of this or that which can be both dieser as we are missing the context here to decide which is correct. The better translation of der orangensaft is the orange juice without knowing that further context.
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ok to be more clear on where we seem to disagree Singular Nominativ dieser/diese/dieses = this jener/jene/jenes = that Plural Nominativ all cases diese
der/die/das = the
so in my view "that orange juice" should not be accepted in this context here
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have to reply here, as below does not work anymore. I have not heard of yon in english yet but jener is still being used quite a bit in german. but I keep my argument the juice is der saft (any juice without being specific) that juice is dieser saft (this specific one)
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also noteworthy is that in all other instances at duolingo the is being used https://www.duolingo.com/dictionary/German/schlecht/1fc90929938c2bb5593eb05ec1b01449
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When words are combined (Orange and Saft), the new word takes the article of the last word added (in this case, der Saft).
Often, in english, when you express a negative judgement you will use "That" instead of "this/the".
The orange juice is bad. - it would be more objective and one could interpret that it might have gone bad.
That orange juice is bad ! - the orange juice is close to you because it indicates that you've either tasted it or looked at it. Therefore putting ao much distance by using "That" instead of "the" is a mark of pure disgust. The exclamation mark helps.
Therefore i agree in the end "der" means "the" but given all that grammatical information, you can now better understand the meaning of "schlecht".
Hope it helps ;) have fun learning german
Does any one have a strong native german knowledge as to the degree of strength has with schlecht In this case they go with bad which is fine, likewise for the english which has various degrees of strength and is generally the simplest direct translation. All is good but As I have read other adjectives could be used and I have found schlecht oten denotes a stronger character E.g the orange juice is not just bad or off but awfull, rancid, terrible, ( is there a more appropriate germn word for awful or is schlecht _bad the only or best translation?
"Der" means "the", like I sad, not "that", like you corrected me!
That is not correct. der means both "the" and "that". (And often even "this".)
my answer was good
Was it?
What was your answer? Show us a screenshot of your rejected answer, please, where we can see the exercise, your answer, and Duolingo's response -- upload it to a website somewhere (e.g. imgur) and then put the URL/link to the image in your comment here.
Nobody can see what you wrote, so referring to "this" or "my answer" is not helpful. (Nor is talking about "your translation" or "the correction" since most sentences have many different acceptable responses and it's not possible to know exactly which one you were shown.)
Is there difference between dass and das
Yes.
dass is a conjunction (ich weiß, dass er kommt = I know that he is coming); it stands before a clause containing a verb.
das is:
- a relative pronoun (ein Haus, das teuer ist = a house which is expensive)
- a demonstrative determiner (das Haus ist teuer = that house is expensive)
- a demonstrative pronoun (das stimmt nicht = that is not correct)
- a definite article (das Haus, in dem ich wohne = the house that I live in)
It's an artificial spelling distinction; they used to be the same word. Compare English "to" and "too".
this question says der is also that
That's right.
English split up the demonstrative determiner "that" (originally from the neuter form) from the definite article "the" (originally from the masculine form).
German did not -- and so der, die, das can all mean either "the" or "that".
Judging by the examples used here http://goo.gl/i0peK I would say so, however there seems to be a word for bad behaviour:
Ungezogenheit http://goo.gl/xN6kR
I'm not a native speaker though, so feel free to investigate further on your own.
"Lieschen Müller" means something similar to "Average Joe". That's probably the reason for Google's "translation". A further example why one shouldn't use Google Translate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe#Variants_in_other_countries
@El.MiH. I'd recommend to use http://pons.eu for looking up individual words. It's far more reliable than Google.
I use Google because it more adapt for translate German-Russian and English-Russian: it provides many means and synonimous. For example: these is means of "schlecht" for Russians - http://en.pons.eu/translate?q=schlechtl=deruin=lf=de , and these for English - http://en.pons.eu/translate?q=schlechtl=deenin=lf=de
But I learn German with English, and Pons, I'm sure, will be helpful for me:) Thanks!
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When "Der Fleisch ist schelcht", it means the "meat is spoiled". So, upon reading "Der Orangensaft ist schelcht", I assumed "the orange juice is spoiled". It says "spoiled isn't suitable". Help?
As shown by other Duolingo users awful is a word that is better. I believe Duolingo, in this case, used a direct translation. as it a native speaker I understand instantly and a second language speaker will too. However if i was speaking to another English speaker I would use awful, to describe that the juice was of poor quality.