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ma vs bensì

Can anyone tell me what is the difference? I also have seen discuccions about word 'però' which I didn't even get in my lessons. Am I missing something?

November 19, 2013

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https://www.duolingo.com/karlsefni

in my opinion (native speaker), 'ma' is an adversative conjunction (contrasting) that can be used in a wider range of meaning, from pure opposition (i.e. the latter sentence excludes the former) to concession (i.e. the latter sentence contrasts the former, but doesn't completely exclude it).

On the other hand, 'bensì' can be used only in case of opposition (or at least, concessive use is very uncommon). And 'tuttavia' is used only as a concessive conjunction. So they can be both interchangeable with 'ma'.

Examples:

Opposition: Oggi non è Lunedì, ma Martedì = Oggi non è Lunedì, bensì Martedì (today it's not Monday, but Tuesday.

Concessive: Oggi è freddo, ma è una bella giornata = Oggi è freddo, tuttavia è una bella giornata (today it's cold, but it's a beautiful day)

Trivia:

you can find 'ma bensì' together: it's used in order to strenghten, despite it's pleonastic.

November 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/edheene

Thanks a lot Can you give any examples where these words can't be used interchangeably or would sound really strange? Or it really doesn't matter?

November 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/karlsefni

my pleasure :)

hmmm good question :-) As usually, it's easier to find a rule or a trend than to single out exceptions to the rule :) At the moment I cannot find any failure, but I was pondering over the fact that in everyday life I hardly say 'tuttavia' or 'bensì' when talking. I usually go for 'ma' and 'però'. I think you're more likely to find them in written texts (so you have to learn it anyway :P ).

November 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/n.gratton

Thank you!

November 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/karlsefni

my pleasure!

November 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/n.gratton

I think (I'm still very much a learner myself) that bensì means something more like "but instead"

"Mi piacciono i gatti ma non mi piacciono i cani." - I like cats but I don't like dogs.

"Non mi piacciono i cani bensì i gatti." - I don't like dogs but instead cats.

"Non ho una casa ma ho un castello." - I don't have a house but I have a castle.

"Non hu una casa bensì un castello." - I don't have a house but instead a castle.

November 19, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/edheene

I just noticed one thing in your examples and the ones provided by duolingo, that after "bensì" only a noun is used and never a verb. On the other hand examples with "ma" are followed by verb, or something that can act as a separate sentence. It's just my wild quess. And I still don't know anything about "però"

And do I understand your point correctly, that "bensì" is more like 'exclusive or'?

November 19, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/BrucePlumb

There are various translating sites available. Google is simple to use but has many mistakes. I like using "Reverso" because it gives lots of example sentences, sometimes with mistakes in the English but easy to decipher. Here is a counter example from Reverso to what you said: Non deve limitare, bensì promuovere il movimento. = You should not be restricting movement, but encouraging it.

August 24, 2018

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