Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from October 25th to November 1st
One of the best weeks in a while!
It is an exciting time indeed! The progress this week has almost doubled to 2.73%. Median has stayed at 1%. Several courses have made record progress.
Two new courses
Swahili for English has started in the incubator - the first language from the continent of Africa! Also French for Turkish is now incubating! With so many language pairs, Duolingo seems to be well on course to where we had dreamed it to be.
Russian is coming
Russian is now 100% complete and will be available as a beta course very soon!
Thought for the week
Duolingo goes to Africa, starts with Swahili!
PHASE 1 Progress: Total
Russian for English - 99% | 99% | 99% | 100% (+1)
Polish for English - 91% | 93% | 96% | 98% (+2)
German for Turkish - 94% | 95% | 97% | 97% (+0)
Catalan for Spanish - 82% | 85% | 90% | 95% (+5)
Spanish for Russian - 84% | 87% | 90% | 91% (+1)
English for Thai - 90% | 91% | 91% | 90% (-1)
Vietnamese for English - 66% | 67% | 74% | 83% (+9)
Hungarian for English - 80% | 80% | 80% | 80% (+0) ^
Spanish for Chinese - 57% | 63% | 71% | 76% (+5)
German for Italian - 72% | 73% | 73% | 74% (+1)
Hebrew for English - 62% | 64% | 65% | 68% (+3)
Spanish for Italian - 64% | 65% | 65% | 67% (+2)
Swedish for Russian - 55% | 56% | 57% | 57% (+0)
Romanian for English - 40% | 40% | 40% | 56% (+16) *
French for Arabic - (New) 40% | 44% | 49% (+5)
Swedish for Arabic - (New) 37% | 37% | 41% (+4)
German for Arabic - 38% | 39% | 39% | 39% (+0)
French for Turkish - (New) 37% (+1)
Greek for English - 34% | 34% | 34% | 34% (+0)
Italian for Portuguese - 26% | 26% | 27% | 28% (+1)
Welsh for English - 1% | 7% | 7% | 25% (+18) ^*
Hindi for English - 21% | 21% | 21% | 21% (+0) ^
Klingon for English - 19% | 19% | 20% | 20% (+0)
Portuguese for French - 18% | 18% | 19% | 19% (+0)
Czech for English - 10% | 11% | 11% | 11% (+0) ^
Guarani for Spanish - 0% | 3% | 7% | 9% (+2)
Yiddish for English - 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% (+0)
French for Chinese - 5% | 6% | 7% | 8% (+1)
Esperanto for Spanish - (New) 0% | 0% | 6% (+6)
Swahili for English - (New) 0% (+0)
Mean - 1.15% | 1.45% | 1.5% | 2.73% (+1.23)
Median - 0% | 1% | 1% | 1% (+0)
* This week's Leader Extraordinaire!
^ The Hungarian, Hindi, Czech, & Welsh teams' progress is as per their own calculation
Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
Ni dankas! ¡Gracias por el entusiasmo!
Luz verde para crear el curso de esperanto en español! Estamos calentando motores y ya se han apuntado aquí más de 1000 personas para ser los primeros en empezar el curso cuando esté terminado. Ahora el siguiente paso es elegir un segundo colaborador para empezar a traducir y adaptar el curso disponible en inglés desde hace algunos meses. Duolingo es un juego y el esperanto un idioma puente entre pueblos que funciona por piezas, como un juego donde la lógica es el único límite para que te entiendan. Si queréis aprender esperanto con amigos, compartid ahora en vuestras redes el enlace para apuntarse. La kursa kreado ekas! ;-)
Apologies for missing this in last week's WIU.
We are Back on Track!
I am thrilled to announce that Romanian for English speakers course is back on track! First, I would like to credit Monica-Ioana, the newest addition to our team, who has put in a lot of effort over the past couple of weeks to create a new outline (layout) for the course. The new structure is a clearer one, focused on elementary and intermediate concepts, providing Duolingo users with both vocabulary and grammar knowledge.
Some Information on our Progress
As of now, we are at 978/2440 words completed. However, this is subject to changes, due to the modifications that will be made to the original structure. We have 67/100 words with images and hope to reach 100% soon! For more information on our progress, and all other questions, ask us HERE
I simply cannot wait for the course completion and I hope that you all feel the same way!
As Buzz Lightyear would say..."To Beta and beyond!"
The creation of the Russian course is complete. It took more than 18 months, and finally the end result is just round the corner, a few days away.
I would like to thank everyone who has been patiently waiting for the release all this time. I am well aware that some of you have seen two summers come and go since you started following us. If you are still here, I think you will be surprised that Russian is not much harder than languages you may have already tasted on Duolingo.
I am also infinitely grateful to all my colleagues, even those of you who are fast asleep at the moment. Guys, I started this without you but I would not be writing these words had it not been for your work and your ideas.
A special thank you goes to Oesterreich7 who taught me not to be lazy.
That is it. I hope we will meet each other soon.
Wow! This is exciting stuff! And when I read the kind mention for Oesterreich7, who has done an awesome job of alpha-testing the course, it reminds me of the humility and camaraderie that has always been an essential part of the incubator family. Well said, Shady_arc!
Dear Friends,, first of all, I do apologize for all the unanswered messages and questions regarding the EN-HU course and would like to thank you all your supportive remarks. Unfortunately another regroup became necessary. The reverse course proved to be far more difficult to create than the original HU-EN course where all we had to do is translate the sentences. At reverse course the tree itself had to be constructed from zero by the team, and believe me, it is no easy task in case of such a different language. Accordingly, the contributors have more complex tasks and some of them perhaps also overestimated their capacity they could commit to this task. Anyway, the new team is in place and I seriously hope that we are now close to the finish line. Let me add that now we have one English and one American member too, so after this point it is not only the lazy Hungarians who are getting to your nerves with their constant delay but also your own countrymen!:-)
Türkçe bilenler için Fransızca kursu kuluçka makinesinde! / Turkish to French is in the incubator! / Turc à français est dans l'incubateur!
Herkese merhaba! Türkçe bilenler için Fransızca kursu artık kuluçka makinesinde :) Şu an kursun yapısını oluşturuyoruz, sonra cümle eklemeye başlayacağız. Bu arada eğer hem Türkçe hem de Fransızca'yı çok iyi seviyede biliyorsanız, contributor olmak için başvuru yapabilirsiniz :) Böylece kursumuz çok daha kısa sürede biter!
Welcome everyone! French for Turkish speakers are now in the incubator :) Now, we are constructing the course, then we will start adding sentences. If you are fluent in both Turkish and French, you can apply to be a contributor, so the course will finish earlier!
Bienvenue tout le monde! Français pour les turcs est maintenant dans l'incubateur :) Maintenant, nous construisons le cours, et après nous allons commencer à ajouter des phrases. Si vous savez le turc et le français très bien, vous pouvez demander à être un/une contributeur/trice, alors le cours pourra finir plus tôt!
We've added 1500 sentences this week which takes us to around 25% of the course content now completed.
We welcomed four new members to the team this week and once they're integrated into it we're hoping they will help us to complete our course in as short a time as possible.
Thanks rmcode for being on time this week, even though I am not :) I am combining the two weeks' progress for this week. And that makes you the leader extraordinaire!
It's been another 3 months since the last update, so it's definitely time I bring you up to speed about what's been going on!
-Reports: The report numbers are consistently low, which is wonderful! (We are currently hanging around 1.5 reports per 100 users). The tree is generally cleared of reports once a week (if not more frequently), so hopefully you notice your suggested answers being accepted more and more quickly :)
-Audio: We have our audio! We are currently going through every single audio file to make sure everything sounds good :) As you can imagine, this will take some time to complete seeing as there are over 3500 recordings to get through! Once we're finishing checking these and any technical issues are ironed out, the new audio will go live. Hopefully this will all come together in the not-so-distant future.
-Tree 2.0: We were recently notified by Duolingo that our course metrics are good enough to start a new tree version! We will hopefully get started on our new tree in the coming days. We are, as always, open to your suggestions and feedback for the new tree version, but our current course of action for the new tree is:
--Fix any problem words, lessons or skills (cough lachan cough)
--Polish the existing tree by beefing up some lessons with new words, removing some irrelevant words, splitting some 9- or 10-lesson skills into 2 parts to make it more engaging and less tiresome, putting more focus on existing grammar topics (additional skills on Initial Mutations, the Genitive Case, the Conditional and Irregular verbs are all possibilities) and possibly changing the order of some skills for a better flow
--Expand on the tree from where we left off! Currently the tree ends with Spiritual, Conditional verbs and Business. We will build on brand new skills from there, with a mix of new vocab skills and grammar-oriented skills.
-I can't give an estimate of when Tree 2.0 will be done and how much our word count will grow by because we haven't built the "skeleton" yet, but an estimate should be possible in a week or two.
-New Contributors: Finally, as always, we are looking for new contributors (that's right, plural). Hopefully we can recruit 2 new contributors (and hopefully it will be more successful than our last recruiting attempt). If you haven't sent us an application yet, you can do so here. If you applied a long time ago (a year ago or more), feel free to send a new application to show your continued interest in contributing! Before you send an application, please read our criteria here and my guidelines here to make sure you are suitable for the job :D All new contributors will be given guidance by existing contributors and Duolingo staff to ensure you can use the system properly.
That's all for this week! Feel free to ask questions on my stream :)
Week 21: 21% complete, beta launch 31-Dec-2015
Promising progress by next week. Also, planning another feedback session from native English speakers in the coming two weeks.
Progress this week at 2.73% with the median at 1%. Russian is coming soon and Swahili has entered the incubator.
The next update is expected on Sunday, 8th of November at
4:00 pm UTC.
Previous Update 18-Oct to 25-Oct
This has been a very exciting week for the incubator.
Russian is coming, Polish is nearing completion and Swahili finally entered the incubator!
Well done, everyone :)
Don't Forget the amazing progress of Catalan, Welsh and Vietnamese and the coming back of Romanian and Hungarian ! Best week ever !
With a bit of luck, this will be the last Incubator Update with Russian still in phase 1... :D
For those who don't know, you can sign up to receive a notification when the Russian course is available by clicking the button "Notify me when available" here: https://www.duolingo.com/course/ru/en/Learn-Russian-Online
If Shady_arc says:
and finally the end result is just round the corner, a few days away.
so, it really is. Let's be patient a bit more ;) We have a national holiday on Nov'4, so I hope to see the course than )))
Pretty controversial and not very politically correct holiday :)
But it doesn't really matter which exact day it will be. The most important thing is that the course will be released soon.
Wait what? O.o
What exactly is "Pretty controversial and not very politically correct" in "National Unity Day"?
Avoid such politically incorrect comments, please.
Folks, in a time when Russia has annexed Crimea and there is civil war in Ukraine, please can we avoid political discussion. It's just going to cause arguments. Languages should not be linked to national politics.
Many National holidays are not against other countries or nations, they are about hard times for some nation and victory. I do now history, I know that Poland were a great state in 1600s and it was very hard and dangerous time for Russia. I also know how Poland disappeared from the map of the world in the end of 18 century, and how it rose up later. And nobody here connect this holiday and hating Poland or any other country. We do respect any nation.
Let's become much closer learning the languages during this not easy times.
RomanRussian: I don't accuse you or anyone of any disrespect, so we have no reason to argue there. I just noted, that for many people November 4 is pretty controversial holiday without any connotations towards you. Nothing more, nothing less :)
I suppose we both know very well which calculations were behind introducing this "anti-Polish" state holiday, but that's for different discussion. I agree that Duolingo is about something different.
About "National Unity Day" itself is nothing controversial at all, but the date and how the holiday was established is. Try to tell about this date in Poland where I live just now :)
By the way Russian course is out, which is the most important
Wait, what, Welsh? How in the world can one team add 1500 sentences? You guys are amazing.
Extremely hard work. 1,500 added sentences within 1 week is crazy and awesome indeed.
I am excited about so many things in this post I don't even know where to begin. Russian done, Polish close, Swahili in the incubator, Welsh plowing ahead, Romanian springing back to life, Hungarian to follow suit, Irish getting new Audio and a tree 2.0, average weekly progress roughly double what we've been seeing - this has been a fantastic week for the incubator.
Now I just have to find time to learn all these languages...
Vietnamese and Welsh for the Win ! You guys rock. And I already said that, but I am very happy to see Romanian and Hungarian. If you guys see that : Thank you so much ! Can't wait to learn both of those language ! :D
Wow! I am so happy to read the news about Romanian :) I was getting unbearably depressed seeing it stuck at 40% week after week after week. Let's hope the team's actions match the enthusiasm of their update and we see at the very least consistent, steady progress!
jitengore, I love the weekly incubator updates and you always use a nice graph to show the progress of this week.
I also created a chart, I don't know if you've seen it, but it let's you scroll through time, maybe you could include it in the WIU? (I don't need credits).
It's located over here: http://thewombatguru.nl/duolingo/
Does that mean you'll be using it? ;d If so, I could try and style it the same as your chart, also with the mean and others calculated, of course still with the slider on the bottom.
I think this is the most breathtaking WIU ever! Russian, Vietnamese, Romanian Welsh are totally kicking it! And Swahili, what a lovely addition. So much available to learn, lucky us! (Doing the Jimmy Fallon dance!)
Esta ha sido una de las mejores semanas de la incubadora desde que vengo siguiendo estas publicaciones. Solo falta el regreso del curso de Griego para que todo sea perfecto.
I can't wait for Guaraní! I want to learn some Avañe'ẽ soo bad! Keep up the good work guys :D
Altough I'm a bit sad it will Jopará (Guarani for "mix", contains many spanish words) and not pure.
But I'll get the best I can
How different are standard Guarani and the Jopara dialect?
Are they close enough for the course to still be useful for teachers in Paraguay teaching Guarani as a second language to native speakers of Spanish and using Duolingo for Schools? The same way Duolingo's U.S. English for Polish speakers class is still useful for teachers in the U.K. teaching English as a second language to native speakers of Polish?
Are they so far apart that the course won't be useful that way? The same way a Spanglish for Spanish speakers class would not be useful for teachers in the U.S. teaching English as a second language to native speakers of Spanish?
well first off, if you have ever seen my posts, you would know I'm a huge native american language enthusiast, and I believe teaching pure Guaraní is the best means to preserve the language's integrity.
Most paraguayans speak Jopará as a second language, and I know Jopará borrows a lot of vovab from spanish. I'm not exactly sure how diffirent the two are, but still I think it is bassivaly learning a diffirent style of spanish with some new words mixed in. However I think this is only a problem for spanish speakers, or paraguayans themselves who already speak spanish, they should be thought pure Guaraní and then they could understand Jopara anyway.
Just my opninion, please don't go off on me anyone...
EDIT: I just learned from a Guarani speaking friend that Some Spanish words, when used with guarani words, can have a different meaning than what it is in regular ol' spanish. So I guess that could kinda alleviate some of my issues.
EDIT 2: Mabye we could get some contributors to join the discussion?
If they are planning to stick with it, yes I think it should be called that .
It is the very first word in the course description on it's page. I have also seen some complaints from spanish speakers about it being Jopará.
French from Turkish
I don't think it's a good idea to have a single X from Y when every other course is expressed X for Y.
You should take a look at Danish for English, then. With all their beer drinking and hubcap steeling bears, they're coming close!
Go Russian, Welsh and Catalan! I'm looking forward to these awesome courses :) Congratulations and good luck to the rest of the teams as well, your work makes Duolingo live :)
With my timing it will be overnight, then I already have to get up really early for work, fill in for an extra-long shift, and go to a class. I'm not going to get home until nearly 9pm, so I'm going to be in suspense all day....
If I wasn't already filling in for someone because we are short-staffed, I'd seriously be considing pulling a sick day to spend it on the shiny new Russian course. :P
See, I have off Tuesday anyway (election day in the US), and already put in for tomorrow off so I could get a long weekend, so it would be perfection if it came out tomorrow. ;)
These have truly been a great bunch of weeks for Duolingo. Proper voyages to South America and Africa, the re-awakening of moribund Romanian and Hungarian, all the new Arabic courses, Welsh, three new stealthy courses I never expected to see (Esperanto for Spanish, French for Turkish, Swahili for English), the great progress and imminent launch of Polish and Catalan, trees 2.0... And RUSSIAN!
Pretty nice storm, this is.
Now all that needs to be done is to revive the Greek For English course ;3; but there's so many languages to choose from now I don't even know which one to learn while I wait for it lmao
Yeah, for sure. Greek and Yiddish are the only silent ones left...
Well, and the mysterious English for Thai.
I've never been so excited after an incubator update. So much progress is being made; it makes me wonder what doulingo will be like in say 5 years.
Also, all of these new courses are making me kind of stressed. They are being released faster than I can learn them. My list of languags to learn just keeps getting longer. lol
So exciting!! It's also super cool to see the wave of impact the big course releases/updates have on duolingo user activity. Ever since German 2.0 I've been seeing tons of German going on, and I have a feeling that will quickly get replaced by Russian :-D I'm super excited to hear from Irish too, since that'll be my next tree after German - maybe audio will come as an early Christmas present? :-D I'm guessing the Romanian and Hungarian folks are more than thrilled with the updates! And wow, go Welsh and Romanian this week, that's intense progress! Finally, more non-European languages coming in too! Congrats to all, woooooo Russian, and THANKS as always to Jiten for keeping us informed!
Holy hell what a mind blowing update, looks like it is definitely new trousers time :D
New irish tree NEW IRISH TREE!
I love irish, it's a beautiful language, but to give you an idea I'm listening to Raidio TG 4 right now and it's playing a Bob Dylan song in english. Girl From North Country is a beautiful song, and one of my favorites from Dylan, but I don't want to hear it when I'm looking for listening practice. Any improvement in any irish course these days is absolutely wonderful.
I've upped my own progress to 12 new/review lessons per day. I just want to get to these new languages sooner! :D Big thanks to all contributors!
Do you happen to have any statistics about how long it takes until a course that has been released to beta appears in the mobile apps?
It's also a matter of how fast each of the different development teams go. It might not come out at the same time for different OS.