https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

Will the Russian course have the immersion option?

Hi, I'm very curious about this since languages like dutch, swedish, etc. Do not have this option. (Or at least it does not appear for me) . It is a great way of learning so I would be really happy :).

November 2, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/vytah
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Duolingo is slowly giving up on immersion. It turned out to be unprofitable, and legally dubious in the EU.

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

Oh, how come? O.o

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/vytah
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As for the legal stuff, it's because the European Union has some provisions regarding volunteer work, which would force Duolingo to do something regarding EU immersion users translating paid content. I'm not sure what that something would be, maybe it would even be paying social security. Since Duolingo is small US company, they don't want to bother dealing with 28 countries just for that, but simultaneously, a huge chunk of potential translation power was blocked from being used as Duolingo's revenue source.

As for the money aspect, as you probably know, immersion produces low-quality translations and does it slowly. You can easily guess that "slow and bad translations" aren't a very marketable product.

This, and the fact that moderating immersion takes resources, made Duolingo give up on adding new languages to the immersion system. Their new revenue stream is cheap language certificates.

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

Oh, how sad :(. But I understand.

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Captain000

Ah that sucks! I really wanted to learn Russian through immersion, seems like a great tool!

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/MariusAgm

How did you find it? How can I access more?

January 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/bricejohnson2003

Here is more: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/13016868

It is a hack, so it doesn't function like the other immersion. There are more articles in the comments.

January 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

I know right? :(

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cherub721

It's a real shame that we won't have it while other major languages do. It was a great learning tool, better than Readlang, Lingq, etc because it was more interactive.

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/alexm768

I wonder what is that on my screenshots then? I am not sure how did I get there.

screenshot1
screenshot2

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cherub721

It looks like that's from the reverse course, since the buttons are all in Russian.

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/alexm768

It is not, actually. You can see English interface on the first screenshot. However, you do need the course with existing Immersion to access the English-Russian Immersion.
1) Open a course with Immersion in one tab of your browser.
2) Open another tab. Switch to the English-Russian course.
3) Go back to the first tab and enter Immersion.

However, this bug is of no use, because you cannot upload new texts. There are only three texts over there, probably the remnants of some early experiments.

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cherub721

Interesting find! I'm not able to recreate it. I opened a tab with the German course, opened a new tab and switched to Russian, went back to the tab with German and tried clicking German immersion, and it wouldn't switch.

I also tried going to URL https://www.duolingo.com/translations while in English to Russian mode, but I get an error 404. Perhaps they caught on to this?

It's frustrating knowing they already have it set up and it should be easy to implement if they wanted to...

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/alexm768

I confirm English-German course returns 404. Maybe, it is important to have different base languages. My first try was from the Russian-English course. Here is the successful try from the French-English course: http://i.imgur.com/rHEzHAH.png

I share your frustration about the absence of Immersion.

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cherub721

When you access it, are you able to edit those articles?

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/alexm768
November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cherub721

Cool. Wow, that article is so difficult (and I already finished the Russian to English tree and I can read some Russian)... that's why we need immersion. I would love to get to the point of reading an article like that easily.

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Captain000

Anyone know if the words tab is also missing for Russian because the course is currently in Beta? or do you need to reach a certain level for it to appear?

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

I'm on level 6 in both dutch and french but the words tab only appears on the french course. So I guess it's the same as the immersion option.

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Captain000

Is dutch a final version or beta version?

November 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

It's the final version (I think)

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/knittingirl

Unlike immersion, the words tab is meant to be coming soon to newer courses (although it's been coming soon for at least half a year...) Until then, you can try memrise or similar sites if you want flashcards :)

November 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KonradToth

Yes I use memrise to learn korean :) Thank you for telling me :)

November 3, 2015
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