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I'm missing something in the Russian course...

[deactivated user]

    Why is there no 'cyrillic keyboard' being displayed to enter special characters? I know you can switch to a latin-written version for it, but I would like to start using the right alphabet from the get-go to learn the letters while I go along. The Spanish course already displays the special characters for when you don't know how to type them, seems like a small stretch..?

    November 2, 2015

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    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

    If you want ot type as usual, install Russian into your system with a normal ЙЦУКЕН-keyboard or a phonetic keyboard (downloadable here, for example)

    I switch between languages using Shift + Alt. You may choose a different shortcut.

    Basically, that's what a Russian user has on their PC.

    I also heard Google Input Tools have somehting to offer you.

    P.S. On Mac it is a bit different. The languages are installed in Keyboard settings in your System Preferences. And the default shortcut is ⌘ + Space. At least, that's what I had.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zzzzz...

    I am going to ask a really stupid question - please forgive my ignorance. Where is Shift?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

    Second from the bottom in this picture. Left side. Edit, there is one on the right side as well.

    :) shift key


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zzzzz...

    My thanks to both of you. My keyboard only has an arrow on those keys.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

    I heard these keys are called different nanes in different languages. So it is good you asked what key exactly we mean:) there is a good chance this button is not a Shift where you live.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/uq.

    your blank shift key is better than the ugly text.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

    Odd. I'm glad you asked then.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vytah

    Probably a German keyboard:


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/savourtardis

    If you have a regular windows keyboard, there are two shift keys, under Caps Lock and enter. It's the key you use to make uppercase letters ;)

    ETA: my own Windows 8 PC uses the default shortcut Windows key + space bar. Although, as I have a German keyboard installed as well, I should try to find the specific shortcuts because it makes switching back to Russian harder and I can't punctuate effectively and keep making specific tzpos with the wrong kezboard. (German is QWERTZ)


    [deactivated user]

      That doesn't help a whole lot since I don't have a physical cyrillic keyboard available. To be able to type in Russian I would have to bind them to my latin keys (or using a keyboard like you describe) and memorize where they all went...

      No, even though you would need (the better part of) a full on-screen keyboard to do this, I think that would, in the end, work best to do this course.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

      memorize where they all went...

      I bought some see-through stickers which I put on the keys that don't match my physical keyboard. But I'm using the phonetic keyboard setup Shady_arc mentioned. With a real Russian setup, the differences would be much bigger.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KonradToth

      I use my phone for learning languages such as russian or korean. Much simpler.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pedro771

      Unfortunately the ENG-RUS course is not yet supported on the telephone version of Duo.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Oesterreich7

      Although the Russian for English speakers course is not available on the Duolingo App yet. You are still able to access the course by accessing the Duolingo website via web-browser on a smartphone. I hope this helped.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SiblingCreature

      Yeah but that version of the site lacks discussion thread and report links. :-( (or at least I couldn't find them)


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KonradToth

      I use google not the app :)


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Komeo

      Windows has an "on-screen keyboard". So you can see the position of each letter and type on your keyboard OR type with your mouse by clicking on the letters on screen.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leonig01

      If you are running Windows OS - you can always add Russian as another input language, and shift it with "alt+shift". I know Linux supports it as well, and it would be very strange if Mac didn't (though haven't validated it myself).

      Another option would be using a "russian virtual keyboard" (google these words and pick anything you like) in a separate tab. A bit of a "copy-paste" mess, but does the job.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Baderrr

      I have Windows 10. After installing a phonetic Russian keyboard, pressing Win and SPACE keys cycles through the languages - very easy now, thank-you.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/trofimovanadi

      It would be nice if duolingo russian could add a pop up russian cyrllic keyboard or something like that.


      [deactivated user]

        Yes! That's exactly what I think would help a lot!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/filipmc

        It might be that the duoLingo development team does not want to put the effort into recreating something that many operating systems already have; that might seem like a waste of duplicate effort to them.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Norrius

        many operating systems

        Well, basically all of them, find me a major OS where you can't type in Cyrillic!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/remoonline

        That's feasible where you have a small result set like the accented letters (and ñ) in Spanish. It may not work when the complete set of alphabets are more or less different.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Y.D247

        try adding the keyboard to your MAC/PC, that way you'll get to memorize the real thing :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mandarkhahaha

        unfortunately with this option, when you need to translate into english you need to switch back to the english keyboard. I started doing this and it is becoming a hassle.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

        Er... there is a shortcut for that. No one switches languyages using the language bar, of course.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Norrius

        Uhm, how do you think actual Russians type? We have two keyboard layouts!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Y.D247

        you'll get used to it


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/worstquestions

        By default shift and control at the same time switches keyboard language, though can be changed to whatever you want. It takes under a second.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

        ⌘ + Space is what I had.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andro0

        mine is shift+command+space


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leonig01

        One gets used to it. If that may offer any consolation - I have 3 different keyboards (english, hebrew, russian) and switch constantly :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/flootzavut

        30 odd letters is not really the same as ñ and friends.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tamarapaas

        My Mac uses cmd+space, but control+space is also very common. If it happens that your Spotlight opens, instead of switching languages, you should open system preferences > Language and text > shortcuts > spotlight > uncheck the boxes.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BrookeLorren

        Since there are so many letters that are different, it would be difficult to put them all on the screen (and would take a while with your mouse).

        The phonetic Russian keyboard isn't that hard to learn, although I have the йцукен keyboard installed. It takes a while to learn (and I just found out how to type a question mark today myself) but it's worth learning how to type on one of these. You'll get faster after the first few lessons.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pedro771

        You are right, but it is such a pain to learn the hidden cyrillic characters on a latin keyboard - at least for me.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cherub721

        This is a good add on for a phonetic keyboard that you can toggle on or off with the F2 button http://www.benya.com/transliterator/


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TAHEP

        Why don't you use on-screen-keyboard which is installed in all windows versions as default, it is way more easy to type, you can switch the languages as Shady_arc mentioned by using Shift + Alt.


        [deactivated user]

          Well one reason that might be construed as being a very legitimate one is that I don't use Windows. ;-)


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

          The advice depends solely on what you use. Any sane modern OS has an option of having a Russian keyboard — it is among the top-10 most spoken native languages in the world, after all. If Duolingo implemented a keyboard... would be even a bit silly, given that it is 2015 now, not 1999.

          I know what you should do on Mac, Windows or iPad, however, if you have nothing of these... Err... I'll have to google that same as you. What about Google Input tools, by the way?


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sannehoo

          I'm duolingo-ing on my tablet and I installed a russian keyboard. Works like a charm and it is very easy to switch back to the english keyboard. Recommended! (But I'm still eagerly awaiting russian in the android app. :-) )


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ddbeachgirl

          I am going to try this keyboard cover: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NSYDPIY?psc=1 the sad part is that they are predicting it will take a month to ship. I don't want to commit to putting stickers over my keys. In the meantime I put together a cheat sheet to refer to.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SiblingCreature

          I rather suspect that if you are studying Russian every day in the meantime then by the time it arrives you will no longer need it. ;-)


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ddbeachgirl

          Yes! I hope you are right :)


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alfonsofernan

          I started using a standard "ЙЦУКЕН" keyboard layout for the first time for this Russian course a couple of days ago, without stickers, but with a key map I refer to when I'm lost. By the end of day 1 I stopped referring to the map, having figured out more or less where every letter is, as of now I have a ~80% hit rate, which means writing anything is still a cumbersome backspace-fest, but I expect that in a couple of days I'll be able to hit every time. It's a slight pain but I figure it's worth it to develop "good habits".


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SiblingCreature

          I decided to go with the Russian Phonetic ЯВЕРТЫ layout. It's not a bad mapping overall. For words that are similar to the English it's almost but not quite entirely unlike typing in English. ;-) If I want to type медик for example, I switch to the Russian keyboard, and type "medik" There are some oddities of course. My Russian surname ends in в, but the Anglicised version I've grown up with ends in v, so typing it as 'w' feels a bit odd. :-) But with no 1:1 phonetic mapping some oddities like that are to be expected.

          That said, I printed out a copy of the layout that I keep propped up beside my monitor though, which makes finding the right character when it's not where I expected it somewhat easier. :-)


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VorpalBunny

          on Mac my shortcut is cmd+I. That way I can switch between the russian phonetic keyboard and US easy and fast.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andro0

          also shift+command+space


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stan_prinsen

          I set the cyrillic keyboard as a second keyboard on my PC. If you work with windows you can do this in the taskbar. The shortcut for me is Ctrl + Shift to switch between the english and the russian keyboard. For now I have a picture next to google chrome on which I can see where the cyrillic letters are located on my keyboard. I'm planning on buying a cyrillic sticker set to replace this unpractical picture. For now it works just fine. Just needs some getting used to.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

          You don't really need the stickers, although they would definitely be cool to have. A picture/ map of the keyboard was all I ever used, and my typing is just fine in Russian. Take Y.D247's advice to use a typing tutor. There are some available with English instructions. klavaro is a good, free one you can download, and there are plenty of others--ask, or just look around at the gazillion posts about it that are popping up this afternoon. :) Or use the method that worked for me, explained here.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stan_prinsen

          Thanks for the very helpful explanation!


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

          You're welcome. Best of success!


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Y.D247

          this might be useful: http://sense-lang.org/typing/tutor/keyboardingRU.php

          it's a bit boring but i find it worth it


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordyBov

          I can't seem to find the Russian course on the Duolingo app. Has it been launched there yet?


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

          Nope. It always takes a while before they turn up in the apps. They have to iron out the biggest problems first. It might take weeks or months, no one knows, since it depends on how many reports of oddities and missing translations they get per x number of users.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordyBov

          When will the Russian course be available on mobile?


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cherub721

          It will happen when it goes below a certain number of reports per day or per lesson.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ddbeachgirl

          For Mac users: I found the Russian Keyboard in system preferences/keyboard. Hit + to add a keyboard, then scroll down to Russian and add it, then the "Russian - Phonetic" is one of the choices. Once that is selected, I noticed that there was a little US flag icon next to my wi-fi strength indicator. I clicked on it, then I was able to select the Russian flag and type with Russian characters. Now I just have to figure out where they are on the keyboard! No worries about getting stuck with the Russian keyboard, just click the flag and select your other keyboard(s).


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

          Better yet, switch them with a hotkey combination (e.g., ⌘ + Space) than by clicking the flag every time.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ddbeachgirl

          When i use that command on my mac, it opens the "spotlight" search. I think it can be fixed: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH11327?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ddbeachgirl

          The instructions were not exactly right, but i did get it to work. Switching with the ⌘ + Space is super easy now :)


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ultima770

          I'm sure someone has commented on here about it, but you can order Cyrillic stickers to place on your keyboard.

          http://masterrussian.com/ I thought had a link to but the said item. But try Amazon. It's cheap, the letters will not cover the Latin ones and it comes with instructions as to what keys to place the letters on.

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