"ЭтоАмерикаилиКанада?"

Translation:Is this America or Canada?

3 years ago

227 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/travkaB

Same thing my grandma asked when visiting me in New York...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FloresHVA

Lol

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Agelastos
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If most airport employees speak spanish then you are not in Canada.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LgDN11

Yeah, you're in Mexico!

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy
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For the benefit of the American down voters. If you travel as a tourist in America, most of the service staff in hotels and airports speak Spanish.

I did a repeat trip with a twenty year gap down the West coast of America staying in the same hotels and eating at the same restaurants after going through the same airports.

The difference was amazing. The amount of Spanish spoken and the number of service staff who couldn't speak any English at all was easily observed. I don't consider it a problem but it is a noticeable fact. While there are many languages spoken in comparable Canadian locations, Spanish is definitely not one of them.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/grey_tabibito

In Wisconsin we wonder that all the time.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kokiri85
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And in Minnesota, too.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ubermec

actually, that is wrong. Canada is a part of america

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fintanfrex
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The continent, not the United States of America, if you mean that.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mapadebits
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For most of american people (and I mean the ones who live actually in the whole continent, not just in the States) american means from this continent.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mariano-M

Ya lo decía José Martí : cree el aldeano vanidoso que el mundo entero es su aldea...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AyrtonSmith
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In english, we use "people of the Americas" for North and south Americans. Other than that, we use north Americans (Americans, Mexicans, and Canadians), central Americans (south of Mexico to Panama), and south Americans. All of which are "people of the Americas."

America-US

Americas-new world

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zarainia
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This is why I call citizens of the US usians.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RyanNelson126

If you say you are an america you are saying you are from the U.S. I understand that Canada and Mexico are part of the Americas but I have never heard a true Canadian or Mexican say there are American.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LouGevorkian

America aka the Americas is actually north and south america under a name that unite both.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Winston298006
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Latin Americans get triggered by this topic, but the fact is that Spanish is not English or Russian, etc., and (outside of Latin America) "America" often means the United States. It's not wrong at all, and as if this were necessary for justification, we can see that Americans (which we all know tends to mean people of the U.S.) are not alone in referring to their country as "America." Furthermore, Americans don't necessarily often refer to their country by this name, as there are also "the States," "USA," etc.

In fact, in English (certainly in the U.S.), and reasonably so, North and South America are considered TWO continents, sometimes called "the Americas." So there is hardly a conflict within English, but there is this unnecessary and unresolvable conflict between native English speakers and Latin Americans.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/yadwinder_gadari

Not for every country outside South America.

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
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I never heard a Canadian refer to himself as American. They have always told me they are Canadian. The country just south of them is named America. By the way, the name of the continent is North America.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ubermec

yes

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FernandoMo204958

The country is United States not América, América is the continent.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy
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FernandoMo204958

No. The continent is North America. If you are describing your location or origin by continent, then you use that term.

No educated American, Canadian or Mexican thinks of American as referring equally to Mexico, Canada and ....wait for it ...America.

In fact, many Canadians and Americans are surprised to see Mexico included as part of the North American continent. They don't dispute it but are a little surprised when the notion is presented to them. Their reaction is along the lines of....oh yeah, I guess that's right....

The closer you live to the Arctic circle, the more detached Mexico seems from the concept of North America. But even they understand a definition is a definition even if it seems improbable at first glance.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/henrynauta

ХД

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Richarizar

The 51sts state

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LouGevorkian

The question is actually asking if its the entire america or canada only. Its not because one is part of the other mean you can ask this question. You point qt canada, ask if its america or canada, rven if its part of america, its just canada as america is more than canada.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FloresHVA

I wish that America will come Canada

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/triestenapoli
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Eto Sparta!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nokurkan
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Э - ТО ... СПАРТАААА !!!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gijira

<kick>

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Helen791839

Дратуй

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/henrynauta

ХД

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tastysquidgey

Is this a Hetalia reference?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/edsheeran102

Probably..... Wait, who's Canada again?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/akunosama
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You mean what. Gotta be accurate.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Aaminah2018

Fellow Hetalians have been found ;v;

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KristaFincher

America and Canada? I just see two Americas.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abnosome
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Hetalia fam high five

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Adalheida
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omg yes! i thought that too!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yurai825961

Whoa. Another Hetalian.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArtistyPen
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nEE NEE PAPA

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kosmocherry
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wAIN O KURETE, nEE NEE MAMA

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/J.C.Fink
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What's Hetalia?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/henrynauta

An anime that personifies different countries in WW2

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kosmocherry
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It's an addiction disguised as an anime

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlanColin_
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America is the continent.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stormwoken

Yet, when you say "Americans", you surely do not mean Canadians?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/feyMorgaina
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That depends. Spanish uses a different word for people from the United States - "estadounidense" (usually translated as "American" since English doesn't have a separate word for someone from the U.S.). I think "Americano" ("American") would likely include Canadians. Spanish also uses "norteamericano" ("North American"), which definitely includes Canadians.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stormwoken

Thanks for the input! The same is true of other languages, as well, but I was referring to English in this particular case..

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jonathan464967

Portuguese also uses a different word for people from US - "Estadunidenses"

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/henrynauta

I mean i could get technical and say "North Americans"

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bestoffriends10
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NORTH America. Sheesh. I'm Canadian, and I would like to be recognized as a NORTH american. I'm not an American.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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I don’t intend to be rude, but why do canadians don’t like to be called “americans”?

In my way of seeing it, the US people just took the name of the American Continent only for them over time, and using the political-economic power of the country, conviced many nations (including Canada) that “America” is a country, not a continent (or landmass/ supercontinent, whatever you want to call it).

So I see more like a submission to the USA a canadian who thinks “canadians are not americans” (because then he/she thinks that Canada is not in America, conviced by the USA that “America is a country, not a continent”) than a canadian who thinks “canadians are americans”, because when he/she says it, he/she is not saying that Canada is part of the USA, but that Canada is part of the American Continent, as the term “american” in English can be used to refer either to someone who lives in the USA (even though I complain about this usage, but I don’t want to get into this discussion right now) or to someone who lives in America (the continent).

While in Canada people are offended by being called “americans”, in Latin America people are offended by being called “non-americans”, or when the US people call their country “America”.

Sorry if I spelled something wrong, I am brazilian. And again, I am not intending to be rude :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
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This whole argument is not taking into account that words have more than one meaning. When someone asks me my nationality, it is American. That just happens to be the name of the country I am a citizen of. It is also the only country named America. I know it is not the complete name, just like a British citizen may use only part of the name of his country when declaring his citizenship. (Or should he say, (I am United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ish.?) Many other countries have "Republic of" as part of their name, but a person from South Korea would not say, "I am Republic of Korean". (And I venture to say that a North Korean would not say, "I am Democratic People's Republic of Korean.)

Now, if we are not referring to citizenship, but to geographical area, then all of these other arguments that I have seen in this discussion apply. In that case, there a about two dozen countries that fit the description American, more if you include the island nations near the American Continents. In this case, the meaning is quite different than when we refer to nationality, and is similar to the use of European, Asian, African, or Eurasian. As a unique case, when one says he is Australian, he could be referring either to his citizenship, or the continent where he is from. (Incidentally, to Americans from outside the US refer to themselves as African-Americans?, or Black Americans?, or any other of the hyphenated Americans?, or is that just a "United States of American" thing?)

I dare say that this discussion has generated so much passion due to deep seated resentment of the US, and that it actually has nothing to do with linguistics. For me, my use of the word American has nothing to do with national pride. It is the commonly accepted term for citizens of The United States of America, in my part of the English speaking world. I haven't seen such passion in a Duo Lingo discussion since the "I'm loving it" discussion in the Portuguese course. (That one actually did have to do with linguistics though.)

Sorry for making such a long comment. My regards to all of you out there who are trying to learn another language. It is a struggle well worth the effort, and you all have my utmost respect.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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As I explained in other comment here, the USA’s name is a different case. "America" is not the name of the country, it is just in the name of the country. "America" in "The United States of America" makes mention to the continent/ landmass where the country is, not to the name of the country (at least it was supposed to mention, nowadays English speaking people tend to use "America" and "USA" as synonyms). It is somehow like the United Arab Emirates: it is a union of some Emirates in the Arab region. As there are other countries in Arabia, we couldn’t simplify the UAE as “Arabia” (even though it has it in the name or something related to it). The adequate way to abbreviate it is “the United Emirates” (also the demonym for this country is “Emirati”, not just “Arab”, because all the countries in this region are arab too, why couldn't US citizens be called Unitedstaters or something like that so?). So, in my way of seeing it, It should by logic be the same with the USA.

Anyway, I have to agree with you that words can gain new meanings over time (it has always to be taken in consideration when it comes to this type of theme) and that to discuss things few/non-related to languages themselves in Duolingo forums is not suitable. Even if this kind of discussion does cover linguistics issues, it is much more related to political/ historical/ cultural questions.

Good studies for all of us who love to learn languages! That is why we are here! :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
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I understand the reasoning about how things should be said. However, I have given up trying to reason how things should be said, and try to concentrate on how they are said. (An English professor where I work once said, The plural of mouse is mice, the plural of louse is lice, the plural of house should be hice. Perfect reasoning, but the fact is, it ain't. (Bad grammer intentional.) English, of course has dozens of examples of what should be not being so.) When I say I am American, I have never had any one ask which American country I am from. They have all understood--even those who criticized my use of the word American. Where I live, the Mexican Americans (a true tautology, as Mexicans are American) refer to the those of non hispanic origin as "Americanos". Right or wrong, that is how they say it. And if I have understood the comments correctly, in the Russian speaking world, American is also understood to mean from the United States of America. That being said, if someone jumps on me for calling myself American because, as the say "We are all American", I would refrain from arguing the point. Perhaps if I were South American, (as my wife is, although she uses the term American the same as I do), I would understand their feelings more. At any rate, I will disagree silently, as there are more important things in life. I have enjoyed the lively discussion here on duo lingo though.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OfficialADC
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But here's the thing: Nobody referred to you as an American. They specifically included Canada in there as well, because America (USA) and Canada are neighboring countries.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WaylonChris
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Not in Russian. And also not in colloquial English. If you say "Ya Amerikanets" in Russia, they will assume you are from the US. It wouldn't even be a question. If you say, "Ya zhivu v Amerike," they would ask what state you live in. The "continent" when referring to both North and South in English is called "The Americas". Stop being a pedantic jerk.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JustinThom942204
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Я живу в Соединённые Штаты Америки или США.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/werekitty
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No, North America is the continent. The United States of America, or just America, is a country. Canada is also in North America.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AharonEffe
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Depends on context, Columbus "discovered America" but he wasnt near the USA, it was Carribean and S.America....

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AharonEffe
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Also forgot to add that majority of non-anglophone countries in "the Americas" consider North and S.America as the same continent. I will also add since people seem to forget all of "Central America" is North America since C.America is just the isthmus portion of N.America.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Spirus123
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They can consider the Earth being flat,if they want to. But there are two continents,not one.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fintanfrex
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This sounds like you're saying even Pangea wasn't one continent.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jeremiah0033

You're absolutely right. Context has its "spicy" turns. You give us an accurate summary of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas.
Thanks ! ;-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/J.C.Fink
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Two continents, surely?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy
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Exactly. There is no continent called America. I am amazed at how many people keep posting that there is one continent called America. There is no such thing.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/john.newbe
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Could have been Russia if you hadn't sold off Alaska !

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/XZMd

99.9% Russians never been to Chukotka,though it's closer than Alaska. When Alaska was due to sold,it took 1.5 year for a post carrier to deliver letters to Chukotka/Alaska. So don't be ignorant/stupid and don't cry for that loss))))

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jd1500

Well it is kinda sad that they only sold it for $7.2 million. They could have made much more out of that opportunity...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/XZMd

Louisiana was sold for 16 mln. Today equivalent is approximately 500 times bigger,so 3.6 bln Alaskan ...it's not too much either,but anyway we should not forget the time/money difference

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/phelbore

Try to rob someone. If they shoot you, America. If they apologize, Canada.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/websmasha

Nice, but if you're shot, the information stays within your head. Anyway, take a lingot! (don't worry, I have 91, and I will have 92 if I give you and complete this lesson)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stormwoken

Why is USA not recognised and US is?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/keihne
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If you spot obvious problems, just report them.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/94BlueLane
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Swedish: eller Russian: или

Oh I do love similarities between certain languages, whether they be purely coincidental or not! :-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Julia220199

Samee, there are a lot of similarities with portuguese as well. I just realized that the more languages you know the easier it gets to learn others

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel8875
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This is 100% true. German and Russian have many similarities aswell.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Martyna390331

Hetalia anyone?? :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArtistyPen
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hell yeah !

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Daddyo911

America and USA, are different things. I don't know if it is like that for Russia.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OfficialADC
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They refer to the same country, so technically the only real difference is that one says "USA" and one says "America".

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Julia220199

I think he's referring to America as the continent, idk where y'all live, but here in Brazil America is the continent and americanos are the people who live in the continent, USA or EUA is the country, and we use estadonidense to refer to its citizens

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Corinder1
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No, this is patrick.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlPolyglot
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I love duolingo :DDDDD. So much fun and learning another great and beautiful language

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cameron938347
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americans (from the United States) may beleive that all north americans call themselves american, however i (a canadian) have never met a canadian who would call themselves american.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/savioaraujjo
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Why America? Should be USA! America is the whole continent.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AyrtonSmith
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When speaking spanish or brazilian portuguese, yes, but in almost all other languages, America=USA. Americas are north and south America together. Africa doesn't claim to be part of Europe. We're on two separate tectonic plates, meaning that they are separate continents. In spanish, i specify estadounidense, but in English, I'm American and North American.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/XZMd

There isn't such continent. There are South America and North America.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/savioaraujjo
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No bro... America is the whole continent divided in 3 parts (North, Central and South)... I'm brazilian and I'm american, just like every single person in this continent.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/XZMd

Nope. Central America is a region,not a continent.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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Yes, for us (brazilians) Central America do is a region, just like North America and South America. None of those three are considered by brazilians and many other people "continents", just regions of the same continent, while English speaking countries prefer to divide the continent in two and put Central America as a region of North America.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conohoa

a Russian language course, yet people are discussing whether it's appropriate to call USA America... take a chill pill y'all everyone uses "America" and "USA" interchangeably anyway

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Spirus123
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Yeah,mate, Chile is in the USA,that's trivial,don't you know? What are U doing here? Study Russian ? Go do it.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Conohoa
  1. When people talk about countries in Americas, they add North/South, not just say "in America".
  2. Can say exactly the same about you, what are you doing here? Not studying Russian that's for sure. Don't tell me what to do m8. That'll be my last comment here though cause i don't want the comments to be closed cause we're talking about unrelated things so bye
2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MasonDantico

why is it ето and not ета? since america and canada have a in the end.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RomanRussian

"Это" is not an adjective here, but a pointing pronoun. It is always "это".

  • "Это - Канада, а это - США" - This is Canada, and this is the USA

On the other hand, the adjective has different forms:

  • Этот мяч... - This ball...
  • Эта картина... - This painting...
  • Это окно... - This window...
  • Эти карандаши... - These pencils...
3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MasonDantico

thanks!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/YaSadeeq
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I'm guessing these will be taught in subsequent lessons?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stormwoken

Because it is a personal pronoun, not a demonstrative pronoun.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lunaexoriens
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Canada is also America.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OfficialADC
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Canada is also in North America*

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lars200
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Это Европа или Великобритания? ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/razvan_urbena
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Why is USA not accepted as the answer?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Robert_Andersson

It is now an accepted answer. (15/01-2015 | 2015-01-15).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zerychon1

Straight out of a cold war movie...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mariano-M

Is this Mexico or USA?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ms.Rainiere
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Where are all the hetalians?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Aaminah2018

Da.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aph-alfred-jones
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Here!!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/J.C.Fink
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What's a "hetalian"?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CodyWall
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Is there a spoken difference between a question and a statement? Doesn't "ето канада" mean "this is Canada" and "Is this Canada"?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duosam1

yes, but you forgot about inflection. Inflection is nonverbal which means it's not written. In writing, you would use punctuation; i.e. a question mark makes it a question.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CodyWall
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ok, so its because its a robot that it seems weird?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
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This whole argument stems from whether or not you're referring to the continent or the country. The continent North America includes three countries. There is only one country named America, that is, the United States of America. Generally, the context will make it clear if you ate referring to the country or the continent. I have found that usually when people object to the use of the word American to refer to the United States, it is based either on National pride or on National resentment rather than the inability to discern the context. Incidentally, there are two countries named United States. The United States of America, and to the United States of Mexico.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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If you are considering North America a continent, so there are 23 countries in it, because the "North American Continent" includes also Central America, not just USA, Mexico and Canada.

Also, "America" in "United States of America" means that the country was made up by separeted states in America (the continent, the idea of "America, the country" didn't existed before the US were formed) which wanted to become one united country.

Before this, someone from, say, New York used to call him/herself as just "New Yorker", and he/she would call him/herself "American" only when he/she was refering to his/her continent (just likes Brazilians, Mexicans, Chileans and Cubans are still doing nowadays) or to make a counterpoint with the British people. As there was no name that unified the present-day region of the USA, the only option was to call the country "the United States of America".

For example: if Brazil and Argentina for some reason want to become one united country, what name this country would be called? well, there is no such name that "unifies" Brazil and Argentina as one single country, except maybe for "United States of South America", because they are different states wanting to become united in the South American region, even though not all the South American states are included in it, you see? (I just didn't say "United States of America" because there is already a country with this name).

So you can see that it is a different case with Mexico, which is called "United Mexican States", meaning that they are united states of the country already previously called "Mexico".

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fintanfrex
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There are even more countries than only Mexico which were original named "United States". India, I believe, was originally named "United States of India".

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/websmasha

Or, you can just say Canada to end the confusion

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tigran432660

Это Америка.

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ivbu0

America is a continent and Canada is inside it so...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CaioFranca2
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It's true

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
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America is not a continent. The are two continents that have America in their name.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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And why do you think both have "America" in the name? Simple: for the same reason why both North and South Korea have "Korea" in their names. And English speaking people usually simplify their demonyms (when it is possible) as just "korean" with no problems.

In English speaking countries "North America" and "South America" are considered two separeted continents, but in Romance languages speaking countries (such as Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Portugal, France, Spain, Haiti etc.) as well as in many other countries where a non-Romance language is spoken, America is one single continent and South and North America are regions of this continent (just like East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Central Asia, Middle East and North Asia are different regions inside the Asian Continent).

You could say that following geological concepts America do are two separeted continents, but following these same concepts you will find out that actually Europe and Asia (and even Africa for some) constitute geologically one single continent called Eurasia (or Eurafrasia, if you include Africa). So why do people (including English speaking ones) consider them as separeted continents? Well, because of cultural issues, the same reason why people from the American Continent (except for the USA and Canada) consider themselves as one single continent instead of two separeted continents.

Why do one thing is valid for Europe and Asia, but invalid for America? We cannot use two weights using two different measures for each.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
dlung1
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In the end, only one country has America in its name.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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Yeah, but it doesn't make the name of the country "America", it is The United States of America (as I explained in the other comment). However, people from the US usually use "America" to refer to their country, mainly when they want to show patriotic feelings, because "The United States of America" or "The United States" (which is the adequated form to abbreviate the country's name) doesn't express much patriotism for some. Also, there are other reasons why people call the USA "America", as I said in the other comment.

But to call the USA that way is like to call the European Union "Europe" because it has "European" in the name. Well, to call the European Union "Europe" makes more sense than to call the USA "America" for me (even though Switzerland, Andorra, Moldova and other countries still being part of Europe, even not being part of the EU), as the EU at least represents a huge part of Europe, while the US represent a small part of America.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Brandon1375

What are the variation of "or" (if there are any) and if there is, is it determined by the noun gender (not a Russian native speaker obviously)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/diogogomez

или is indeclinable

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/russianlearner00

How to pronounce "или" ?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OfficialADC
OfficialADC
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EE-LEE

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/R_Andersson

Не знаю. Я смущён. :(

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Viper36P
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I would consider myself (and I guess the rest of the world too) really grateful, if finally the population of the USA would show a little sign of humility by not speaking about themselves exclusively as AMERICANS as America is a continent and the USA is just a part of this continent. I hope at least this is teached in school over there...

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/benbailey19

Would you prefer us to call ourselves United Statians?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
dlung1
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Good one. Have a Lingot.

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Codytheclone

Это советский Россия

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LICA98
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советская

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/akunosama
akunosama
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Can I join? I got Murica flag stickers! :D

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SeanMXD
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Can you smell maple syrup?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RedRin2

Im American but i think i want to move to Russia...

9 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nukemonk

No, this is Patrick!

9 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Aaminah2018

Man, this is so oldddd XD :Canada reaches hand out to slap someone for getting confused:

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Violetathe1

BULGARIA X RUSSIA FOREVER

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ivan855648

sigh i cant XD

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dont_tread_on_me
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This is America.

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stultustech

This is America

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AdolfHitle128953

Нет, ссср

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VictordosSG

Can Америка really be used to refer only to the United States or it's necessary to use США?

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RonShamell

THIS IS AMERICA

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aph-alfred-jones
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I love every Hetalian in this comment section ;w;

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sp.ark
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Two hundred and sixteen comments! This is a really actual issue.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mang01

America is the Continent not the Nation or the union of nations. A huge Egocentrical error US culture keep doing and exporting...

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AtalinaDove
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I have a question as to how the word 'or' is treated in this context in Russian. Is this asking whether it's America or Canada, or if this is America or Canada, meaning it's asking whether it's somewhere else or somewhere that's America or Canada?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Spirus123
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It's asking whether it's America or Canada?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FabrizioPe6

Hi, I have question. I italy when we ask or affirm something to other people we are speaking with, we are used to change sound at the end of the last word we say, so we can quickly understand uf it is a question or not. Is that in russian something similiar or it doesn't exist? In this case it sounds so equalized suonded that I couldn't understand if it is a question or an affirm. Someone can help me? Thanks in advance

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stormwoken

Bear in mind that this in many places throughout the course the sentences are put together mechanically (either by a speech synthesiser or from a pool of pre-recorded words, it seems), so the intonation is often really flat, unlike the actual spoken Russian.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JustinThom942204
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As I understand from my friend in Russia, the statement is less emphasized than a question. The tone for a statement is rather flat. The whole sentence is emphasized if it is a question.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FabrizioPe6

I had post a question about this sentence guys.. if someone could answer me I'd be pleased! ;-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/prettyevil
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I still cannot figure out when to use Amerika v Amerike. Help? I've tried reading through the discussions on multiple pages where Amerike or Amerika are used, but they're usually just lots of shouting about America not just being the US and stuff.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mapadebits
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When you say Amerike your using the noun Amerika in a propositional case. You have to use this case when you are answering where is something. Example: Где вы живёте? Я живу в Amerike.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LA-PorchMonkey

Pronunciation of "или"?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cal-H
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When using the word Это, how does one know if the sentence says "Is this..." or "This is..."

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/neid7044
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it can mean both

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VookMon
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обе? (both?)

confusung.. isn't Canada in America, and the USA is in America, but not -called- America .. so it's America anyway, even if they mean USA?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CaioFranca2
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Does she pronounce it "Ameerica"?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kamila_Rocha

Canada is in america...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoaoDSouza
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Lock this discussion too.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/skn492456

"This is American or canadian ? " How can we write ?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mkultrakid

У Американцев нет слова для называться

(Is this grammatically correct?)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/arobosa

No, this is incorrect. Write it in English. I'm Russian and I can't even understand the meaning of the phrase.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/freiling
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Извини

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/___Jake___

difference between и and или

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/yasmine_y
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И: "and" ; или: "or".

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrJessy
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и or или ?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LICA98
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и=and
или=or - -

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrJessy
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thanks LICA98

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AmandaJose3
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Heeej jag heter Johnny

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DaniCarvajal1502
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Canada is in America. When are they going to understand that America is a whole continent composed of many countries, like mine, Colombia.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/anchovy.paste

How do you pronouce "или"?

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/IgnasiRivi
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When having the screen in vertical the Word América didn't apear on the screen. I had to turn the screen into horizontal in order for it to apear on the screen. Phone is Xiaomi Mi Redmi 4 x

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mauricio933855

AMERICA IS A CONTINENT NOT A COUNTRY. THANKS.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wT7S1
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Ш

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnDo12
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What difference between It and This?

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Richarizar

I was recently diagnosed with ligma, please send help

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CreativeCaprine

Someone give some context to или. Why is "or" spelled like this here?

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VelikanovM
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Why she says Канадá? Правильно - Канáда

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lwndro
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ask donald glover

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sobsz
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This is America Don't catch you slippin' up Look what I'm whippin' up This is America

1 month ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ken138609
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Is this THE UNITED STATES OR Canada?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jnluissoza

..as Russia is in Europe and Asia it's not correct to say all Europe is Germany and all Asia is China. Make an effort and let's try to LEARN how to say things by their name. 35 countries share America.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SpracheShinobi

Perhaps from some perspectives. However, from the Russian perspective, both linguistically and culturally, "Америка" always refers to the USA. If you mean North, South, or Central America, you must specify such.

Since this is a Russian course, we should accept learning the Russian way.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hfh777
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'"Америка" always refers to the USA.'

Really always? Wikipedia in Russian says differently:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jd1500

Well definitely in my country it's like that. If you say America everyone assumes you mean the USA. If you mean the continent, then North or South America. And wiki would be the 'technical' perspective, not how it is in the country. I'm not saying that Russians DO use America in that way, but they certainly might.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lisa4duolingo
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Not sure exactly where to post this comment, but this seemed to be the best place. Some might say this post is related to political issues, but for those who may be doing this as a reverse course, and even those who may be, dare I say it, "American" (United States nationals, or otherwise), I wanted to add a bit to the discussion, more for bringing a cultural sensitivity issue to the forefront than anything else.

I used to study Spanish and at some point during my education, I was taught that it was technically incorrect and culturally insensitive to refer to U.S. nationals as "Americans" because it didn't also refer to our American sisters and brothers to the south and north of us (but especially to the south of us). And, for years, I remember, at least occasionally, making a conscious effort to avoid doing so.

In recent years, I haven't been quite so rigid on that aspect. Sometimes it is just awkward and clunky to avoid using "American" to refer to the United States. I have also noticed that others, some of whom are excellent writers, also use the word American to refer to the U.S. Heck, even the United Nations uses the word "American" to refer to the United States of America.

As for any political correctness in avoiding the use of "American" to refer to the U.S., it is pretty evident that many "Americans" are a bit fed up with all of the political correctness some groups want to force others to abide by. Nevertheless, it never hurts to be culturally sensitive and respectful of other people.

I don't believe in pandering, but like AharonEffe and Jeremiah0033 said, it's all about context. Choice of words matter and have the power to inform, persuade, charm, and anger among many other things. Depending on the effect you want to have, it is essential to know who your audience is. If you'd like to read more on the topic, the links below provide a good overview/history:

American (word)

USE OF THE WORD AMERICAN

Tried to find a good Russian proverb to sum this all up and the best one I could find is this:

Если бы не закон, не было бы и преступника.

which means "The more laws, the more offenders." I suppose a good English companion to that might be, "Better to know the rule before you break the rule." As you learn Russian, or English, or some other language, knowing which rules and conventions to adhere to and which ones you can ignore, will be key to your success in sounding more like a native speaker.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WaylonChris
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You obviously know what someone means when they say they're from America. If you ask someone where they're from, chances are they won't say that they are from Asia, or from South America. They'll say, "I'm from Laos," or "I'm from Bolivia." We don't say "I'm from the United States of America," because it's too wordy. We could say "I'm from the United States." Even then, though people like you would complain that there are multiple countries that could be called that, for instance Mexico's official name is Etados Unidos Mexicanos, or the United Mexican States.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dlung1
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But only one of them is named américa

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Carcarlene
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Completely agree. This would be like saying "is this europe or is this france?"

Or even more plainly: "is this a fruit or is this an apple?"

Canada is america, like an apple is a fruit. America is huge containing many individual countries.

I think people mistake America for the small area named the United States. Imagine if france was actually named "France of Europe". People might be inclinde to call France, alone, Europe. Then all french would be termed "Europeans", thus confusing the rest of the continent as something else.

If you want to split hairs the united states and Canada occupy the northern America. As does Antigua, Bahamas, Belize, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, Trinidad and more.

Likewise, Europe has a north (like every continent on this planet) occupied by the countries Denmark, Estonia, iceland etc.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hrisar
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I just wanted to add my two cents on this issue, as I have had this discussion a few times while living in South America. Particularly as it relates to this discussion about the word "America" referring to either a country or a continent, it is worth noting the common usage of America is to refer to the United States of America.

The United States of America is also the only country in the Americas that has America as part of its name. The vast majority are Republic of (followed by the generally used name of the country like Brazil, Argentina etc). Interestingly, as Mexico is actually "Estados Unidos Mexicanos," it is technically less precise to use the term the "United States" for America as that overlaps with the name for Mexico. As such, referring to the U.S.A as "America," particularly when it is obvious that one is referring o a country as in this Duolingo exercise, is more precise than even using the "United States" or just "the States" and it is certainly less of a mouthful than always using "The United States of America."

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/private_Dramba

Duo developers do not know that Canada is in America. Such simple-minded guys, it's even touching. Instead of constantly changing the design of the site it would be better to correct numerous semantic errors.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tiancris024

America es un continente, no un país ignorantes.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/websmasha

Note that America is either North, South or United States of America. America might refer to all of them, so it could be America.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ZacharySos1

Это папа это мама

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JayMilkshake
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Isn't America a desert in Canada?!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CemalGl3

In istanbul too

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/peterlkj

I switche md Canada and America and they counted it wrong ugh why cant they have two correct answers

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KevinWilt

Do Russians really not know the difference

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Abnosome
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Hetalia...

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mln98
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Both thingd. Canada and America.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Edilvers
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То и другое, мальчик. :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/neid7044
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AMERICA!!!!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JaAlLuFu

????????

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JaAlLuFu

I AM A CANADIAN, YOU IMBECILES!!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/elle634905

Lol

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ThaddeusMc2

boing

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chloe219378

k

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lepaslandas
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Это русския

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/S-learner

Isn't Canada in America? It's politically incorrect to say that the US represents the whole American continent

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RomanRussian

In Russian language tradition by default "Америка" means namely the USA. If you want to point to the continents you should use:

  • Северная Америка - North America
  • Южная Америка - South America
  • Американский континент - The American continent
  • Латинская Америка - Latin America

And the word американец means a citizen of the USA. To name people from other countries of Americas you should use:

  • Североамериканец
  • Южноамериканец
  • Латиноамериканец
3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duosam1

Also in English. If you say "American" you mean someone from the United States of America. You don't call Canadians or Mexicans "American". People who argue this are tools or trolls. Or, anti-American slimebags.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OmarDeSant
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Continents are taught different, depending on where you live. Where I live, America is taught as a continent, and both "american" (citizen from America) and a word that can't be translated (that means citizen from the United States) are both accepted. However, in a huge amount of countries, such as in the Russian speaking ones, the country is called America (as well as USA). It is mainlly a cultural difference, so it is not politically incorrect to say that.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hennikari
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The continent in English is called North America, and both North and South America together are called the Americas. America typically refers to the USA.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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https://www.duolingo.com/duosam1

США = Америка which is located in North America

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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США = Соединённых Штатов Америки = United States of America which is located in North America. We in the USA do shorten the name to America, but I am not sure that is done so often in other parts of the world.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Carcarlene
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If it is the norm, and the norm is incorrect, just say usa. The world says some pretty weird things, we can say things correctly and still be understood. But there is probably little to be done in changing how other people speak when this norm is so accepted.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jaytra
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Accept English

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duosam1

that's not even a sentence.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zebrettino

Are we going to say this is also a political statement, like the Ukraine-Russia question? :/

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RomanRussian

The sentences themselves are not as bad as appropriate discussions can be. Let's learn languages, avoiding any political talks.

3 years ago
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