https://www.duolingo.com/mhouldey

How to turn-off the latin transliteration?

...on the mobile web version of the Eng -> Rus course? It appears to be impossible - all I see is the transliteration. I want the question text to appear in cyrillic. Thanks!

November 4, 2015

15 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/KollieF

If you are unable to change the setting on a computer, I think you'll have to put the site into Desktop mode first, start an exercise, turn the option off using the toggle at the top-left of the question and then put it back into mobile view.

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/mhouldey

Yes presumably that's a possible workaround. Seems pretty crazy though to not include such an important thing on the mobile site.

However it's free, so we musn't complain too much!

Cheers.

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

Honestly, I don't know why they made Latin letters the default :-/

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/mhouldey

Well, probably because most beginners will not have a cyrillic keyboard sorted. Seeing cyrillic but typing answers in latin would be strange. Just as it was strange for me to see latin but type in cyrillic.

I almost hate transliteration because there does not seem to be a standard. For example, Google Translate's transliterations are not identical to Duolingo's. The mappings between cyrillic and latin letters differ slightly (I think).

Anyway, the mobile dev. team 'just' needs to add the Aa/Яя button to the mobile site and there will no longer be a problem. :D

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

Yeah, I guess I can understand that, but I really don't think it's very helpful in the long teem :-/

And yes, transliteration is a bit variable.

Google translate has a weird kind tendency to ignore the transliteration of some things unless the user types them in correctly, which is weird. I remember someone ages ago posting some 'how to pronounce' stuff they'd clearly cut and pasted from Google translate, and some of them were waaaay off.

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/mhouldey

I agree that transliteration is not helpful in learning a language like Russian 'properly'.

As a proud cynic, I would say that the overriding goal of duolingo (as a for-profit company) must be to "get as many users as possible". Fewer users would be gained if cyrillic were the default, hence the decision to use latin.

Don't hate me for speaking (my version of) The Truth. :D

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

Hey, I would never hate you for that!

To be honest, given how many consonant clusters are required to make Russian work in transliteration, I kinda think most people who'd be put off will be put off by Cyrillic would be put off by that, too, but you never know. Maybe a few people will pick up a little Russian who might not otherwise have done. I do think they reeeeally need to sort out the switching, though!

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/mhouldey

Just tried the workaround and...it works. It's a real pain to get back to the mobile site from the desktop site, though. I cannot see your average person (IT-wise) performing this workaround with ease.

The bug needs to be fixed ASAP to avoid alienating people, in my opinion.

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KollieF

It is a bit of a faff, yeah. But at least it's got you going :-)

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/mhouldey

Indeed. I'm going to give you my first lingot because you think logically like me. Do you feel patronised yet? :o

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KollieF

Haha, thank you very much for the lingot. Happy learning, and don't forget to mix other resources and webistes with your Duolingo. :-)

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/DonTaylor

Hang the frick on...! You can turn it OFF???? Please, somebody help me out here. I am NOT a technophobe. I have Russian installed as an input language on my computer. I am using the desktop version. And I have a Cyrillic keyboard! I can't find any settings anywhere to adjust the display. I've been stuck with transliteration from the beginning, and would LOVE to get rid of it.

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KollieF

There's a teenee tiny Aa button at the top left when it's asking you to translate something. Give that a click!

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/DonTaylor

Ё моё...! Thank you so much! I never even noticed it. THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

November 4, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KollieF

No problem at all, my man. Happy learning!

November 4, 2015
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