So, I'm slowly starting to think that, if I use 'У', then not only does 'кошка' have to be in the genitive, but so does 'молоко'. Is this correct? (If it is, I'm an idiot. XD)
My question, specifically is the following;
Are both of them in genitive? (I'm leaning towards 'yes', obviously.) And is that because 'кошка' is in genitive, necessitating the genitive of 'молоко' or is that because I use нет in the sentence? So, if I had 'I have' instead of 'I do not have', would it be 'У кошки есть молоко' or 'У кошки есть молока'? (I can't actually remember from previous lessons, argh..)
Previous lesson info, get!
Alright, so, the previous lessons have structures such as: 'У папы есть брат и сестра'. Both 'брат' and 'сестра' are in the nominative case, so it looks like the reason 'молоко' is in the genitive case here ('молока') is because of the presence of 'Нет' in the sentence. ... as is clearly described in the Tips & Notes for Genitives 1.
.. Well, at least now I know it? :)
I'm glad to hear it. XD
One of the major plus points of figuring things out for myself is that they generally tend to stick longer. That, and it's always good to confirm for yourself that you are not, in fact, an idiot. I was seriously doubting myself there, though, hehe. :)
And if my ramblings help other people get the language faster, then, well, by all means. 8)
I read that before (correct me if i'm wrong)
You have to put an "o" or "e" among the last consonants just if the word is a femenine noun and it's respective nominative ends with and "a"
Девушка (nom. singular) Девушек (gen. plural)
Кошка (nom. singular) Кошек (gen. plural)
But my cuestion is, when do you know which one you should use??? "o" or "e"... it could work if i said "кошкок"?
I would tell you, but I don't know Russian. lol From what I've researched, you're talking about the vowel reduction in the plural genitive case with feminine -а endings. But I'm not sure of the rules, if there are any at all. BTW it's not with all of them, for example nominative singular рабо́та becomes genitive plural рабо́т. As far as I know, vowel reduction only occurs when there is no vowel for the last syllable as demonstrated in your examples above. I guess I know more than I thought. Hopefully a native speaker will see this because now I want to know.
I'm a beginner too - but as I understand it, because of the нет. The "cat" is genitive because it's doing the possessing (or rather, in this instance, the NOT possessing), the "milk" is genitive because it's in a state of non-existence. So two different uses of the genitive in the same sentence. Somebody please correct me if I've got this all wrong!
Well, to say it very literally: With the cat, there is not of milk. У кошки нет молока. The preposition у takes the noun in genitive, thus кошки is in genitive singular (and the genitive singular here is the same as the nominative plural), нет is не and есть put together as one word, thus forming 'there isn't', and then молока is milk in genitive, since after нет, a noun is in genitive. Uff, this got long, but I hope I could help :)
I think this app shouldn't be used alone. It just makes too many confusions. I think there must be regular grammar lessons explaing grammar rules, not just show a sentence and leave you in confusion. The app is just great for learning words and some phrases that do not need any serious grammar. I'm dissapointed.
I completely agree. I often find it helpful to use other sites for my practice on some days, even though it means I can't hold a streak on duo.
If anyone is interested, two good free resources I have found for this are: https://www.youtube.com/user/russiangrammar
No problem! That's what we're here for. :)
If you want to know all the post formatting options, there's a link somewhere in the discussions that has all of them, but I never remember all (or the link, unfortunately, hehe).
You can create italics by using asterisks in front and after the word you want emphasised. So * emphasis * becomes emphasis.
Similarly, using two asterisks after one another * emphasis * becomes emphasis.
Well, that was a spectacular show of formatting, but either way, one asterisk = italics, two asterisks = bold.) Hope that helps!
Okay so the rule for genitive plural (for feminine) is you strip off the а/я at the end and then if what's left ends in two consonants you add an е between them (because otherwise it would be hard to say). So that makes кошек. It's the same rule for neuter nouns. Masculine is different where they just add -ов.