https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

O Eifersucht!

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O Eifersucht! Du Leidenschaft! Mit Eifer suchst, was Leiden schafft!

Die Übersetzung auf Englisch ist:

O Jealousy! You passion! Zealously seeking that which creates suffering!

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I find "Leidenschaft" to be an interesting word, because whilst it roughly corresponds to the English word "passion", it also contains the word "Leid" meaning "sorrow" or "suffering". We find this in a common phrase heard often in Germany, "Es tut mir Leid" (literally: It does me suffering/sorrow).

"Eifer" by itself corresponds to the word "eagerness" or "zealousness". "Sucht" means "addiction" when capitalised as a noun, but translates to "searches" when written in lowercase. Thus we have the logical, compact package of "Eifersucht" (literally: the addiction to the state of zealousness or fervor).

Anyway... just a random musing...

-Lance

November 5, 2015

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/scatophage

The English word "passion" itself means suffering. At least, this is its origin. Think of what the word means in the phrase "the passion of the christ." Its more contemporary use meaning "intense emotion" seems to have begun as something of a metaphor that grew to became more dominant than the original meaning which has now become somewhat obscured.

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

Yes, that reference crossed my mind. And the more I think about it, a passion towards anything tends to cause some suffering. Maybe not always, but I find that along with experiencing any very intense emotion, some form of suffering is not far away (or mixed in with the pleasure of feeling anything acutely).

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/CCLuna

Doesn't 'Eifersucht' also mean jealousy though?

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

It does. That is how I translated it from the original. See above :-)

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/CCLuna

Ah ok, got it now. Thanks! :)

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

Sure :-)

November 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/eekboom

The canonical form of that saying is "Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft".

November 9, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

My (German) boyfriend taught it to me this way and I actually prefer it to the original. I like the directness of it, and the personification of Jealousy. Thanks for sharing the official version.

November 10, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/eekboom

Actually I, too, like your version better.

Interestingly both seem to stem from the Spanish poet Miguel de Cervantes Saavdera, who wrote:

"O zelos, zelos! Quan mejoros llamaran duelos, duelos!"

and the word plays on "Eifer-Sucht" and "Leiden-Schaft" were only added by the translator.

See http://bit.ly/1SFu8L3

(Sorry had to use a URL shortener, because the forum software always ate up some special characters in the original link to books.google.de.)

November 10, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

Cool! Thanks for the additional info :-)

November 11, 2015
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