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That's probably the surprise that olimo was referring to. I've taken to remembering it along the lines of "You what? Don't eat bread? Are you daft?"
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Why does "что" come after "ты"? Is it obligatory, or would "Что, ты не..." also work?
Are there any other possible word orders?
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It emphasizes surprise. Some examples:
- Ты не ешь хлеб? You don't eat bread? / Don't you eat bread?
- Как, ты не ешь хлеб? What, you don't eat bread? (I can't explain, but "как" instead of "что" sounds better to me.)
- Ты что, не ешь хлеб? What, you don't eat bread?
- Ты не ешь хлеб, что ли? You don't eat bread, do you?
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olimo, а не подскажете почему не принимает "What, do you not eat bread?". Ведь это правильный несокращенный отрицательный вопрос.
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why is "do you not eat bread" not accepted but "you don't eat bread" is
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Report it. I wrote "What,don't you eat bread", which also wasn't accepted,so I've reported that
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My textbook has что ты as an expression of disbelief -- is that something people actually say?
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Does it literally translate to: "What are you that you don't eat bread?"? Is it the way that this is expressed in Russian?
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Because the relevant noun is ty, and there is no intermediate (helping ) verb. Ty takes esh' (Generally ty takes V+esh0.
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In Spanish is easier to translate and understand the above Russian sentence: Ты что, не ешь хлеб? Vos que, no comes pan?
Spanish is so much easier to understand and translate than Russian. I wish they were somewhat related so I could learn faster :D
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I learn Italian as well as Russian, and I find it very useful to memorise the notable similarities between the languages. It helps me learn more quickly, I think. E.G. Italian "biblioteca" translates to the Russian "библиотека". I imagine a similar strategy could be used between Spanish and Russian.
That's one of the very few words. It's actually the only word I've seen that relates. If you know of more, please do tell. I guess there's avtoboos
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I wanted to make a witty comment about being a celiac (gluten intolerant), but I can't find the word for it... So, what do you call celiac people in russian?
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It's an interesting question. In russian, they are called the people with a disease "Целиаки́я" (also spelled "глютенэнтеропатия", "кишечный инфантилизм" or "болезнь Ги — Гертера — Гейбнера").
Написал "Do not you eat bread?", в итоге ошибка и исправил на "Don't you eat bread?". Бред какой-то...
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My answer was "You don't eat what, bread?" But it said the answer was "You don't eat bread, or what?"
Why does my answer not work in this case?
If you can relate to how the intended meaning would sound in Italian, it would be like: "What's a'matter you don't eat bread?!" The 'left to right' literal from the Russian comes out: 'You what, don't eat bread?! (possible disbelief)'. That's my take, I hope it helps : )
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What in god's name is wrong with "What, do you not eat bread?" if you spoke to somebody english they would know it means the sames as "What, you do not eat bread?"
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I believe the correct English punctuation here should be "What? You don't eat bread?".
