"a school student"
Translation:ученица школы
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So "to learn" in Russian is "To teach oneself" (Like "enseñarse" in Spanish, where reflexive verbs do exist)? Beautiful :)
From the Tips and Notes on module People 1-
"ученик is a school student or a "follower" or "disciple" of some "teacher" in a more spiritual sense.
AmE speakers may confuse it with "студент", which is strictly a college-level student."
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I thought about using genitive, then I thought (evidently incorrectly) that it would sound like the school owned the student, and decided to use an adjective. I tried "школый ученик", which was marked incorrect but it seems that "школый" does not exist, and it should be "школьный". My question then is:
Would "школьный ученик" work? Or would that mean something different?
"школьный ученик" is not the best way to say "a school student". It's usually just "ученик" or "ученик школы [the name or number of a school]" if you want to specify a school. "школьный" is implied by default and is redundant.
The same is for "университетский студент" (a university student) - it's just "студент" or "студент университета/колледжа/академии".
However, you can say "фабричный работник" (a factory worker) or "банковский служащий" (a bank employee), but even this terms are now become more and more archaic.
In short, it is better not to use an adjective with a profession or occupation, use nom. + gen. instead.
However, you can say "фабричный работник" (a factory worker) or "банковский служащий" (a bank employee), but even this terms are now become more and more archaic.
In short, it is better not to use an adjective with a profession or occupation, use nom. + gen. instead.
Emphasis mine.
I'm curious, do you happen to know why or have any thoughts on why this is becoming archaic?
Thank you.
I just stop seeing and hearing this. Maybe these terms were quite common a few decades or a hundred years ago, but now they are replaced with the more specific western-style job names such as директор, менеджер, специалист, администратор, мерчендайзер and so on. "менеджер по уборке" (cleaning manager) - how do you like this? :)
"менеджер по уборке" (cleaning manager) - how do you like this? :)
Nice! I knew a guy a long time ago who cleaned offices. He tried to get his boss to change his job title to "Environmental Engineer".
No dice.
And thank you.
I entered "школник", which was marked as "you have a typo in your answer". I suspect "wrong" would be a better description of my answer.
Is an университет considered a type of школа in Russian like a university is considered a type of school in (at least American) English?
Duolingo is inconsistent about this phrase. Sometimes it wants ученик (ученича) школы, and sometimes it just wants ученик and will mark the longer form wrong, and there's no way to tell in advance which it wants.
Getting very confused -- what case is "school" in? The correct answers I was given were "ученик школы" and "ученица школы" - so that would imply that it's genitive = "the student of the school" But here it is "ученик школу" which would be dative or accusative?
But here it is "ученик школу"
Emm. Where?
"школы" in "ученик/ца школы" is indeed genitive.
