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I just realized something. Those islands off to the north of Russia are called "Severnaya Zemlya." That just means "northern land."
What a name.
Much like the aha moment I had in college when I realized why Vermont is called the Green Mountain State. Or maybe it's the other way around. Anyway ... il y a des montagnes vertes.
Is the union "нерушимый"? It's kind of funny! But there's one problem: нерушимый разрушился... :)
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I personally think it's because "вот" is like when you're giving something to someone, but in this example "here" does the verb "to be" and they don't use a word for it. Maybe a native could confirm because I just trying to learn like everybody else and that's my understanding
Then what about all those sentences saying "Вот украина" and "Вот город"? I don't think there is any giving in those cases. So there must be another reason здесь is being used here.
Not a native. But as far as I know вот is being used to show to 2nd person. While здесь just simply pointing at it. Maybe this problem come over and over due to lack English term to describe those words. In my mother language though (although it's non Slavic and even non IE) we have quite exact terms for each of those words.
Earlier in the lessons, it was clarified that вот is what you use when you are directly pointing out something that both the speaker and listener are looking at - Вот Америка, Вот мама. That appears to be the case in this sentence. Therefore, the use of Здесь needs an explanation.
The context of this excercise is confusing. The english translation, as a one-line pro, comes across as a some kind of formal presentation or declaration - in which вот would be a better translation.
However duo is merely referring to the dry context of someone glazing over a survey map (let's say) and simply stating the location of their land.
It'd be better if duo omitted the English-to-Russian version of this excercise or extended the context of the sentence.
The aliens are about to begin the invasion, having spent decades searching for the planet they need. "At last," their leader broadcasts to the fleet as it closes in. "Here is our Earth."
Doesn't this mean "Our land is here", rather than "Here is our land" which would be вот наша земля?
I think in this case possible both variants. "Здесь" mean place, location (speaking about smth that near to speaker or pointing on place where it is), "вот" is more about object, about pointing on it and may be giving. I'd prefer "вот" in this sentence. But I don't know what exactly mean "here is" and "is here" in English.
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In English we use the word "earth" to also mean "soil". Like "A handful of earth", or "earthenware pot" (clay pot).
Is it used similarly in Russian?
I'm not native, but usually, "земля" is used to denote "the part of Earth which is not covered by oceans or other bodies of water".
If you want to say "homeland", then using "родина" is preferable.
Yes.For example: Не топтать их коням землю русскую!/ Земля родная./ Я рожден на святой осетинской земле, аланов потомок я гордый!
As been asked before with no answer, can you say while looking at a picture of the solar system Здесь наша земля refering to it as our earth?
земля́ • (zemljá)
IPA: [zʲɪˈmlʲa]
"earth; ground; land"
Noun: f inan (genitive земли́, nominative plural зе́мли, genitive plural земе́ль)
From Proto-Slavic *zemľa, from Proto-Balto-Slavic *źemē, from Proto-Indo-European *dʰéǵʰōm, whence Lithuanian žmogùs ("human; man"), Latin humus ("soil"), humilis ("humble"), homō ("human being") and hūmānus ("human; humane"), English bridegroom (from the compound brydguma) and gome ("man", obsolete), Welsh dyn ("folk; person; man"), Albanian dhe ("earth, land"), Persian زمین (zamin, "earth; soil").
Source: Wiktionary
Could this be "This is our land"? "There is our land here" seems like a very awkward English sentence.
If someone said, "There is our land here," I'd know that the person who said it was not a native English speaker.
I disagree. If I was pointing out my land on a map and comparing two areas: This is our land here, and this is government land over here (for example). I can think of many other examples as well. Saying it this way emphasizes that it is OUR land and not someone else's.
Yea if someone said "There is our land here" to me, I would be very confused.
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So this is genitive. нас becomes наша howerver.. I remember reading that the object we own's gender will influence the sentance, hence the -a ending, but why does нас become наш?
Also, if you can explain the above, please link a resource to this, because I cannot seem to find it myself. :/ Thanks in advance!!
борьба и вы узнаете!
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You are confused. This is not the genitive.
"наш, наша, наше" (depending on gender) are the possessives for "мы" (English "our"). Just like "мой, моя, моё" for "я" (English "my"). These all decline together with the thing possessed, but here everything is in the nominative.
"земля" is the nominative form of the noun. It is a feminine noun ending in "я". It's genitive would be "земли" (which coincides with nominative plural, as it happens with most feminine nouns, though the accent very often changes syllable for the plural).
Mnemotecnic: for those knowing Spanish: on земля (simlia) мы семя (my semya: we seed) LA SEMILLA
If you're referring to the planet Earth, Земля must start with a capital letter. But this is not the case.
This is a clumsy English usage. It sounds translated from another language. More graceful and expected would be “this is our land”. Even “Our land is here” would have a specific emphasis which would limit its use to an ardent conversation.
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"земля" is nominative singular (the word you would find in a dictionary), and "земле" is both dative and prepositional singular. "земле" is a declension of "земля" (imagine it as the mother word from where the other declensions come from)
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Смотрю я, в этом курсе тоже есть тенденция запутать изучающих. Думал, что "здесь наша земля" будет "there is our land here" (справедливости ради, вариант принимается), а фраза "here is our land" основным переводом имеет "вот наша земля". Почти одно и тоже, но есть свои нюансы.
