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- "Я и она."
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This could be pronounced little bit more normal, it is pronounced like "Yeyana". Too fast. Not normal.
Is this homophonic to "Я Анна"? That is what I thought they were saying.
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Look up "vowel reduction". Basically, unstressed "о" is spelled like an "а" and "она" is stressed on the "а".
Specifying the other person first is definitely the convention in English. I am curious if it is in Russia though?
In college, I learned it as Я comes first. I don't recall why, or whether this is a rule versus colloquialism.
I'm not convinced my that. Can you explain more? I thought we'd day he & she or his and hers. Me and she is too colloquial. I'm actually not sure how this Russian phrase would translate into good English
If you listen to the slow version, it says я и анна. Not that good of an audio.
Well yes, is it less accurate to write "me and her" instead of 'She and I' ?
awful pronunciation, though. Don't belive it, it/s incorrect. It should be YA I ANA (stressed last "A")
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'a' is the contrastive conjunction. It is used when the second thing is some-how in contrast to the first (as in 'whereas' for example).
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Pronouns are tricky. The writers on DC's superhero TV shows use nominative pronouns when they should have used accusatives and accusatives instead of nominatives, even when they are putting words into the mouths of reporters for major metropolitan newspapers.
Pronouns come in families. "She", "He", "I", "We" and "They" are in one family and "Him", "Her", "Me", "Us" and "Them" are in another. Mixing them is like putting a Montague and a Capulet together.
Is this word order polite in Russian? In English or French or German it would sound very rude!
In Spanish is just about, everybody's opinion. "She" and "I" ...она и яю But somebody mention that in Russian "я" comes first.
She and I would be more polite, but at this level in a language course it seems bizarre to have this withput an explanation about the reason the order is recersed!
No. In technically-correct, formal English, "She" and "I" are subject pronouns. Я и она can only be subjects in Russian.
Same here, I had to listen to the words separately to make out what she was saying. Hope that's not how they speak normally in Russia xD
Most native speakers would simply say: "Me and her." Only fastidious third grade teachers would say: "She and I" (and they'd sound foolish).
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It's TRUE. Americans ( like me) don't pay much attention to grammar. I bet they say it in England, yes?
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It doesn't have to be. Both English and Russian are using nominative case. So English using her, accusative or whatever, is what makes no sense to foreigners and us actually not grammatical. What is important is how people actually say it. And I believe я и она is how it is said in Russian. Native speaker please verufy.
Well, the audio says она, even if it's not great quality and even if it's hard for newer learners to hear. Она and Анна are pronounced differently.
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It actually might have been correct pronunciation. The first 3 letters all run together fast with a на after it. If he was saying Анна, you should hear the Aнн longer . Languages including ours, run word together so we might as well get used to it.
No, at least not in formal English. Я and она are subject pronouns, like "I" and "she." Me" and "her" are technically "object pronouns," and they have several other equivalents in Russian...all of the other cases besides the "nominative" case. In English, essentially the only words that display any declension (like every Russian noun and pronoun) are the pronouns.
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Thanks Ben... I just started learning yesterday, I'm very new at this, but I'm getting hooked already. Thanks for the explanation.
I and she doesn't make sence in english, it should be translated as 'me and her' or 'me and she'
Yes, "I and she" is awkward. However, "She and I" is not. It might not be the most common way of phrasing it, but it is the only way of doing it in/on anything official or gradeable. "Me and her" simply gives the mistaken impression that the people in this exercise are grammatical objects, which they are not. "Me and she" is mixed between object and subject.
That would be any case other than the nominative. We have the nominative (subject) case here. Я=I, not "me". Я--мужчина=I am a man.
The voice said the sentence too fast, I hadn't realized that "и" was in there.
