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I was actually thinking about Jenny and how she keeps forgetting things in the taxi (luggage, towels, etc..) now she'll forget the children
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POSSESSIVE ENEMY MINE
There isn't much to say about words like "my" or "your" in Russian.
his/her/their do not change: его́, её, их(and they don't get an initial Н after prepositions!)
my/your/our roughly follow an adjectival pattern, i.e. they copy the gender and the case of the noun they describe. Just like этот:
>>мой/твой/наш папа
>>моя́/твоя́/на́ша ма́ма
Unlike English, no distinction is made between my and mine, her and hers etc.
Pronunciation: in «его», as well as in adjective endings and "сегодня" the letter Г is pronounced В. It is a historical spelling.
GRAMMATICAL GENDER
Nouns in Russian belong to one of three genders: feminine, masculine or neuter. If a noun means a person of a certain gender, use that one. For all other nouns look at the end of the word:
(TABLE) ENDING IN NOM; GENDER; EXAMPLES
-а/-я ; feminine ; ма́ма, земля́, Росси́я, маши́на
consonant ; masculine ; сок, ма́льчик, чай, интерне́т, апельси́н
-о/-е ; neuter ; окно́, яйцо́, мо́ре
-ь ; feminine or masculine - consult a dictionary ; ло́шадь, ночь, мать, любо́вь / день, конь, медве́дь, учи́тель
IF THERE'S A SOFT SIGN, IT ISN'T POSSIBLE TO PREDICT THE GENDER, AT LEAST, NOT ACCURATELY. HOWEVER, ABOUT 65-70% OF THE MOST USED NOUNS THAT END IN -Ь ARE FEMININE. ALSO, YOU CAN LEARN THE COMMON SUFFIXES ENDING IN A SOFT SIGN THAT PRODUCE A WORD OF A PREDICTABLE GENDER. THEY ARE:
-ость/-есть, -знь → feminine
-тель, -арь, -ырь → masculine
ALL NOUNS WITH -ЧЬ, ЩЬ, -ШЬ, -ЖЬ AT THE END ARE FEMININE. THE CONVENTION IS TO SPELL FEMININE NOUNS WITH A SOFT SIGN AND MASCULINE ONES WITHOUT ONE: НОЖ, ЛУЧ, МУЖ, ДУШ. IT DOESN'T AFFECT PRONUNCIATION, ANYWAY.
it accepts "a taxi" or "taxis". it's the article thing, the app is real stickler for articles
That's interesting, checking my dictionary (ABBYY Lingvo if anyone's interested, it's a good app), такси does not decline at all -- are there any other nouns that do this?
Yes, lots. They are typically loanwords that happened to have an unfortunate ending that doesn't belong anywhere: пальто, радио, кофе, шоссе, какао, кенгуру, кафе, меню, фортепиано, кашпо, жалюзи, рефери, атташе...
Nice, I can recognize many French words here (paletot, radio, café, chaussée, cacao, kangourou, menu, fortepiano, jalousie, attaché), but I have no idea if they have the same meaning!
Why can't радио, кофе, or in general loanwords ending in е or о be declined just like normal neuter nouns? I can see why меню, кенгуру, жалюзи, etc cannot be declined, since those are "invalid" russian endings, but о and е should be fine...
I don't know, it just doesn't work. There is some notion of what sounds “good” and what doesn't, and if I try to form oblique forms, they don't sound good at all. It's probably related to why you can't say “I will win” with «победить» or “34 watches” with «часы», but “we will win” and “35 watches” are absolutely fine.
On the other hand, there is some tendency to decline the undeclinable (because undeclined forms sometimes sound awkwardly imprecise), so it's not impossible to hear «нет там жалюзей»... which is absolutely unacceptable as far as dictionaries are concerned (and is really bad Russian, so don't do that), but phonetically is OK.
But I'm an armchair linguist, so take this with a cubic metre of salt.
The same in Polish, some time ago words "radio", "metro", "kakao" were undeclinable. Now it is changing, "radio" and "metro" decline even in dictionaries - but "kakao" is still undeclinable (some people say "kakaa", "kakaem" - but it can be acceptable "only in very informal Polish". I think these words were treaten as foreign in Slavic languages, but now they have been used for such a long time that for people they became "native" and that's why they decline them (prof. Jan Miodek, a popular Polish linguist, writes it is a natural process). In Polish it already happened, maybe in Russian it will take more time? But if now these are bad forms, we should learn as good Russian as we can ;)
You could use твои (rhymes with "i-ee", used for plural nouns) (not твой, which rhymes with boy and is for masculine nouns) if you were talking to an individual with whom you were already familiar, like a friend. Ваши works if you're talking to two people (like both parents) or are being formal.
Use твой when you'd use ты (speaking to one person with whom you are familiar); use ваш when you'd use вы (speaking to multiple people, or when addressing someone formally like a teacher, supervisor, stranger, etc.).
Твое is for singular neuter nouns in the nominative case; ваше is for singular neuter nouns in the nominative case.
Can в такси mean both "inside the taxi vehicle" and "currently taking a taxi" (as in English, "I'm on the train"), or does it explicitly and only mean the first one?
Why does the "и" ending the first two words sound different than that ending the final word? It sounds like "ih" (a short "i" in English), and then a long "e" (eeee).
Из русского предложения невозможно понять, что дети находятся в нескольких такси. Логика подсказывает, что дети находятся в одном такси: Your children are in the taxi.
@Lucas566160 - Certain specific foreign loan words like такси, метро, пальто, and a few others just don't decline.
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Как всетаки правильно a cab or a taxi? В английском курсе нас учат ,что американцы не употребляют слово taxi
I wrote YOUR KIDS ARE IN TAXI and it was wrong, i really don't know why, because kids and children, it's the same
I don't think the problem is with "kids". Duo probably expected you to put an article before "taxi".
