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29 Dansk levels before learning numbers?!

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Does anyone else feel that certain basic lessons should be available without prerequisite? For instance, cardinal numbers, and vocabulary should just about always be available from day 1. Is there a quirk about this language that makes numbers so difficult?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/theearpig

There actually is a quirk about the Danish number system that makes it more difficult to learn than other Germanic systems, and I definitely recommend you learn a bit of the language before you try to wrap your head around the numbers. 29 lessons in might be a little ridiculous, but I agree that it shouldn't be at the start.

The problem is that the Danish number system is built around twenties instead of tens. So in English you have ten, then you have twenty (two-ten), thirty (three-ten), forty (four-ten) etc., the same system applies to German, Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian, Esperanto and possibly a long list of other languages.

But following the Danish system, you would have ten (10), then first (20), then half-second (30), then second (40), then half-third (50) and so on all the way up to half-fifth (90). What's worse is that this system only applies to the latter half of the tens, that is from 50 to 90. From 10 to 40, there is a kind of but not exactly similar system to what you're used to in English, based around tens. Because of this, the names of the Danish tens are both complicated and inconsistent, and I definitely think that having learnt a bit of the language itself beforehand will help you memorise the numbers much more easily.

2 years ago

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Yeah, you do learn things differently here than you do in school and other websites, but it's just they way people have designed it.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CheeseB.Danish

I think that the main problem with having different skills throughout the tree always available would be the fact that there are other skills with other, new words before them. If you do the skills out of order, then you'll have new grammatical constructs and vocabulary that you won't have encountered yet. The only way to solve that would be to rearrange the entire tree, which would open another can of worms with the same exact problem. Not everything can be the first thing on the tree, and it seems that Numbers just happened to be one of the less important skills.

2 years ago

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I was thinking the same. However, simple vocabulary doesn't seem to be a building block. Particularly numbers. I actually stopped practicing Danish for quite some time because I felt the intro grammar and vocabulary wasn't as helpful and engaging as some of the other courses. How have you foudn the progression of this course?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CheeseB.Danish

Hm...well, for a while, my method of figuring out the grammar was "bash at it until something clicks," and through the whole tree, my level of understanding was trailing a bit behind. Now I'm trying to figure EVERYTHING out, all the way.

I've noticed in the last few days of Spanish that it's a lot easier to just charge through, but that's probably a combination of pre-exposure and the fact that I've now figured out how gendered languages work. :P

2 years ago