"Моя сестра сидит и читает журнал."

Translation:My sister is sitting and reading a magazine.

November 13, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LivingLifeform

Does it only mean magazine or can journal be accepted as well?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc
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"Journal" is fine, too. Russian does not make a distinction between academic and non-academic periodicals, as long as they are not newspapers.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JacquesFre5

I would guess that "журнал" comes from French "journal" mainly meaning "newspaper".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Matt92HUN

Is this a pseudo present continuous structure that refers to something that's ongoing this moment?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnUnicorn

Like the Dutch and their "present posture progressive" (for lack of a better term)?

Wat doet zij op dit moment? Zij zit te lezen.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Matt92HUN

Yeah, that's what I thought.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pan.X
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Yes, is it like swedish Min syster sitter och läser en tidskrift., similar to a continuous form?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc
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What else could it refer to?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dave168907

It could very well refer to a habitual action. What does your sister do each morning at this time? She sits by the window and reads a magazine. Am I not correct?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Matt92HUN

I mean, is this how you say that something is ongoing in Russian? Like is this how you say "my sister is reading" in Russian, like how you say "the newspaper is on the table" as "the newspaper lies on the table"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc
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Russian does not differentiate between habitual and ongoing action (at least, when we are not talking about verbs of motion). When two actions are simultaneous, the "ongoing" interpretation makes a lot more sense.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Matt92HUN

Oh, I see, thanks.


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    I personally understand «Моя́ сестра́ сиди́т и чита́ет журна́л» literally: i.e. my sister is reading a magazine while sitting.

    There is some structure like that, but it's colloquial and I wouldn’t use it with «и»: «моя сестра́ сиди́т[,] чита́ет журна́л» (it’s so colloquial that I don’t even know if I need a comma here!), but I don’t think it means the action is ongoing.

    So I'm not completely sure what's the meaning of this construction, but looking through examples in the National Corpus it seems it doesn't have any additional meanings except continuity..? Not sure.

    However, as I've said, it's not used in this very sentence: I think «и» breaks everything.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dave168907

    How would you say: "Each morning, my sister sits by the window and reads a magazine" ? Would the verb forms be any different from the continuous forms?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc
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    The verb forms would not be any different. Russian only has one present tense to describe ongoing processes as well as habitual actions.

    The only place where it matters is verbs of motion. We use different verbs for one-way motion and for multidirectional/aimless motion—and habitual motion to a place almost always implies a trip back (I mean, in actual usage). On the other hand, if you are moving RIGHT NOW, the only meaning a multidirectional verb can have is moving around without any particular destination (like being on a walk or driving all around town). So "I go to the movies every week" and "I am going (I am on my way) to the movie theatre" will use different verbs.

    Probably, only идти/ходить ("walk") and ехать/ездить ("go by vehicle") matter to a complete beginner. For a more advanced newbie a few more are also useful: бежать/бегать (run), плыть/плавать (move by water), лететь/летать (to fly), нести/носить (to carry/bring an object manually), везти/возить (to carry/bring/take by vehicle). There are 14 or 18 or these verbs pairs, depending on whether you include reflexive variants some of these verbs have.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheDreadfulGuy

    Why is ''журнал'' as if it was in nominative case? Doesn't it have ending in accusative case?


    [deactivated user]

      Журнал looks the same in accusative and in nominative case. In fact, all the inanimate masculine nouns do.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/peterviuz

      "And" in this sentence really doesn't seem natural to me. Wouldn't everyone say "My sister is sitting reading a magazine"?


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenYoung84

      It totally makes sense, there are two things she's doing and you're listing them.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MEHRBAN5

      "... is sitting..." or " ... 's sitting..." what's the difference? "Is" also can be shortened as 's


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanSixx66

      Сидит VS Сидится? Where's the difference? I learned Сидится first, in a book


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenYoung84

      сидится is more like "sits still" "is willing to sit".


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanSixx66

      Сидится is perfective?


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenYoung84

      No. Because сидит is imperfective and сидится just adds the reflexive -ся ending, сидится is also imperfective.

      The perfective form would be посидится I suppose but I don't know if that word is very common.

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