Vive la France
The World is with you Paris. Vive la France!
The world is with all victims of mindless violence wherever they may be. We pray for everyone who is affected by atrocities no matter where they occur. We can only beat these thugs by standing shoulder to shoulder with our neighbours and remembering we are all brothers and sisters.
I greatly respect and understand this wish to avoid religion at all costs but prayer takes many forms and as an expression of fervently desired peace, harmony, joy and the good of others need not neccessarily involve religion at all. Those who "pray" for peace and joy may have any religion or none but caring for our fellow human beings is always incompatible with violence and therefore brings with it warmth, love, laughter and light.
Vive la joie de vivre!
This image is part of a beautiful set of 12 images, but I agree that this particular one seemed a bit petty and petulant. Obviously, after being a victim of religious extremists, the cartoonist (who worked at Charle Hebdo) has a pretty low view of religion, but someone praying for you is one of the most innocuous things there is. They aren't forcing you to pray.
I am sorry if you gained the impression from anything which I wrote that I was saying the image was either petty or petulant, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact I thought that it was a polite and measured response from someone who for personal reasons had every reason not to want to hear another word about religion, however well intentioned but was grateful for the sincerity of all the good wishes.
I wouldn't presume to tell anyone who was personally touched by any disaster, whether man made or natural, how they should feel. Unless someone has experienced something like that for themself, they can't possibly understand how it feels or even how they would react if it happened to them.
I agree that no one is ever forced to pray but nor should anyone be forced to want prayers said on their behalf. I happen to think that prayer takes many forms, from the overtly religious to the general heartfelt desire for the good of all from the atheist or humanist.
I think that it is almost certain that even the most committed atheist, will in times of trouble say something like "Oh, please let everything be alright!" ...... They are giving a voice to their innermost hopes and fears but would vehemently oppose the idea that they are praying, because, they do not direct the words towards a deity in whose existence they do not believe. Whereas, in contrast a religious person would of course direct them to the deity in which they do sincerely believe.
If the thought shared by believers and non believers alike is " Please let there be peace, harmony, understanding, tolerance, love, light and joy among us all and support, strength and aid to the victims" Then whatever you call this ..... thoughts, wishes. desires or prayers, it is the same thing, the overwhelming desire of the (usually) silent majority to live in peace, happiness and harmony with their fellow human beings, irrespective of race, colour or creed.
I apologise for the length of this reply but I want to make it crystal clear that I am not telling anyone who is personally affected by this atrocious tragedy, how they should feel, what they should think and above all, what they should believe.
Beautiful words Gena, and undoubtedly well meant. But those who pray are, by definition, religious. And religion hasn't brought us anything but trouble. In times like these, I wish Voltaire and Christopher Hithchens were still alive.
Thank you for your thoughtful response EU and I hope mine is equally thoughtful. Religion is just the excuse used by people whose hearts are full of hate. There have been plenty of atheists who have used their political ideologies in the same way and gone on to massacre millions, think of Stalin or Pol Pot ...
I do not mind whether you want to call it prayer or humanism or love for your fellow man .... the important thing is not to hate, not to say my way is right and if you disagree you must die but instead to accept our differences, whilst remembering our common humanity. ..... We are all the same under the skin, we love our families, friends and homes. We share the same hopes and fears...... "If you cut me, do I not bleed?" .........
Those who truly care for their neighbour as themselves may well be religious but they may equally well be atheists. It is the genuine and heartfelt desire to live happily, peacefully and harmoniously which is important not the name attached to it and the support and solidarity shown by so many diverse people is a concrete demonstration of that immensely important fact.
Your attack against religious people is bigoted hate speech, and is made all the more reprehensible when they are merely wishing you well. lfphigenia was much too kind to you. Please keep your anti-religious bigotry to yourself. This is supposed to be a safe space for language learning.
Yes I heard about it yesterday. It's unfortunate what happened in the beloved city I wish to visit someday. I feel bad for the innocent victims and their families. I also feel bad for the officials that have to deal with the aftermath. I would hate to not only be one of the officials at the scene(s) but I would also hate to be the one to tell the family members that they lost a loved one. All the training the world can't prepare you for that. My heart goes out to all involved!
I've been studying French for the last few months because of DL. Though it's a shallow reason, I feel like I became more connected with France's people and culture through the language and the Duo community.
I am here on the other side of the world, but my heart goes out to you all. La France, reste forte. Nous sommes à vos côtés en ces temps terribles.
Studying a language is an ideal way to begin to get connected with another culture. Language does not exist in a vacuum, nor is it simply a utilitarian medium of communication; it is the very expression of a people's identity.
My deepest condolences to the victims and those affected. Keep these families in your prayers!
My condolences to Paris, to Beirut and also to Russia, the victims of flight A321. Sending love from America!
Québec est avec vous. #ViveLaFrance
quite simply please know that there is considerable solidarity felt with all of France from all of the UK.
and there is very considerable outrage and disgust at what you have had to suffer.
vive la france! we are thinking of you
I heard about the tragic news yesterday and it broke my heart. I hope one day we can all live in a world filled with peace and love and horrific stories like this will be a thing of the past.
I heard about this yesterday. A truly, truly horrible incident; I'm thinking about Paris and France all the time and praying for them. Vive la France !
Pour la France, Beyrouth, et Bagdad. Pour tous qui souffre, nos cœurs sont avec vous.
the phrase "Vive La France" is the traditional expression of SUPPORT for France.
Vive la France Vive Paris Liberté Égalité fraternité Et toute mes condoléance au personne ayant perdu un proche :( Nous continuons de vivre alors ne leur donnons pas ce qu'il veulent.
I saw this last night and thought it was very touching:
On the left is sweet angel, Martin Richard who passed away in the Boston Marathon (Boston Strong!) attacks. This picture was made famous the day of, praying for peace on earth. On the right is his sister, a Boston Marathon attack survivor, holding the same message on a sign in French.
Thinking of you all and hoping all is well with you and with your families. Courage.
France had a hard couple of days after the attack of ISIS/ISIL or either another terrorist organization or group. Let's just pray nothing else happens for a little while.
Salut Madeleine, ca va? ( i am also new but we can learn this wonderful language together!) :)
Madeleine, welcome to our community. You can show your solidarity with the French people by resolving to continue learning their beautiful language.
Madeleine, you need to keep that streak going. There's nothing like peer pressure for encouraging you to study, so tomorrow we will all be looking for a two day streak and level 5 against your name. If there's anything you don't understand in a lesson, click the "discuss sentence" button. If you don't find the answer already there, post a question. Alternatively you can message me directly if you like, and I'll try to help.
BTW, your statement above would have been better as: "J'aime le français!" You need the word "le" in there, and "français" has a small "f" and the little hook (called a cedilla) under the "c". On a standard Windows keyboard you can make this character by holding down the alt key and typing 135 on the numeric keypad, or just copy it from somewhere else and paste it in.
Bonne chance dans vos études!
We are all very sorry for what happened in Paris and I don't think any one should suffer that. #prayforparis
I just don't understand why people do things like the attacks on Paris. It's cruel and pointless! I've been to Paris and at the time didn't know about things like these attacks, but I suppose I could have been one of those poor people. (I'm not trying to sound selfish.) Scary thought, though.
The chances of any one person being directly affected are very, very small. But for everyone who is killed or injured it is terrible both for them and their families and friends. A major event like this affects us all indirectly. We are shocked and feel anger towards the perpetrators and sadness and sympathy for the victims and the thousands of people close to them. In these times we need to be vigilant of course, but if we allow fear to change our way of life the terrorists will have won.