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Ukrainian or Russian?

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My goal on Duolingo is reach the level 25 at the French course, and as I can see I will reach my goal in a few months. After I have reached my goal (I promise I won't use this word anymore), I would like to learn a new language just to curiosity or maybe to reach the level B1. So, I'd like to know if Ukrainian is more easier to learn than Russian? How the order of sentences in these languages work? How many cases systems Ukranian have?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/anyom
anyom
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Well, the russian course is a lot longer than the ukrainian course, and i think it teaches more words. I did the ukrainian course a while ago, im doing the russian course now, and the russian course has a lot more grammar explanations, and i feel as if the russian course has more structure etc. Also, russian is spoken by a lot more people than ukrainian, and there are a lot more ressources for russian than ukrainian, which might make it easier as well.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Redelll
Redelll
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I have the same question before. Personally, Ukrainian is much more easier because there's no stress like in the word "молоко" (moloko) which means "milk" while in Russian you have to figure out where will be the stress, so "молоко" is pronounced as "malako". I have also read an article telling that Russian is much more useful. Of course, due to the fact that it is more widely spoken than Ukrainian. Even when you speak Russian in Ukraine they will understand you, specially in Kiev I think (that's base on my research) So good luck to your own choice weather it will be Russian or Ukrainian. But for now (after finishing your "goal") you might just want to try both of the languages and figure it out which one is more appealing and easier for you :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chrkubrick
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This is a solid point about Ukrainian, but I don't know if I would put a lot of weight behind it. The two languages are similar in their challenges, yet they're also both quite doable once you grasp the grammar (which is not as hard as it initially appears).

I vote Ukrainian from the heart, but that is just personal preference. I think they're both beautiful to the ear, so you can't go wrong. If your goal is B1 (not impossible for either), I would give yourself some time to start both courses and see which structure (of the course that is) fits your learning style.

I finished the Ukrainian tree a while ago, and I felt that it gave a pretty solid grasp of the language that would naturally lead you to pursue other resources. Plus there some great resources provided from the contributors that may help you down the road. From a vocabulary standpoint, however, you will still have a hike before reaching the B1 status.

While I haven't finished the Russian tree, I think it will likely have more vocabulary to offer. If your goal is a B1 speaker, then perhaps, the Russian course is your ticket.

Hope I wasn't too longwinded there…

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Liebert_
Liebert_
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Thank you Chrkubrick, I have seen a girl on youtube that speaks Ukrainian, and I thought Ukrainian so beautiful to hear, and that's why I will maybe learn this language, but I will see if I can, I have a lots of things to study at my college.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chrkubrick
chrkubrick
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Дуже добре! Я думаю, що тобі сподобаєтеся!

Good luck with your studies, too!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN
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Ukrainian is not really easier to learn than Russian. They are similar in difficulty. http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-ukrainian-and-russian/ http://masterrussian.net/f42/ukrainian-russian-alphabet-diffs-3689/ https://www.duolingo.com/comment/10344499

http://study-languages-online.com/russian-words-order.html http://blogs.transparent.com/russian/word-order-and-logical-emphasis/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_order The word order in Ukrainian is also S-V-O (subject-verb-object), but because of inflection of the words by case, both are very flexible, almost any order can be used to indicate logical stress and definiteness.

There are six Russian cases and seven Ukrainian cases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_grammar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_grammar

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vadimfowler
vadimfowler
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I think Russian is a better choice: if you are really going to learn a language, you will need to go well beyond duolingo in terms of textbooks, reading materials, movies etc. Russian simply has more resources available.

I mean no disrespect to Ukraine, but for centuries Ukrainian was just a minority language with no international significance. Therefore the amount of study materials is likely to be rather limited... and probably mostly are aimed at Russian speakers anyway.

Otherwise, they are rather similar to the point of often being mutually intelligible.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lydusha
Lydusha
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Learn both!! :D As a native-English speaker I personally find Russian easier, but both have their endearing and challenging aspects. Considering your French background you might enjoy learning Polish as well... What is it about Russian or Ukrainian interests you?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Liebert_
Liebert_
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Unfortunately I do not have time to learn these languages, although I wish I had time. Well, I felt in love when I saw some pictures on weheartit and on google earth from Ukrainia, and also I have wacthed a brazilian tv show about this country and also I know a ukranian girl who loves Brazil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Zx2D0Fr5w).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lydusha
Lydusha
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As a nursing student who has studied Russian for 5 years I understand time constraints. As far as the beauty of the language goes it is hard to go wrong with Slavic languages. They all sound beautiful (even my siblings who study Romance and Nordic languages agree!) Which one of these clips appeals to your ear?

Polish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upBGFwzvQUk)

Ukrainian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13=PIJf0aKQRvA)

Russian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Il2rhe3MI)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Liebert_
Liebert_
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Oh man! It is more hard do choose just one language after I have saw this videos. haha.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lydusha
Lydusha
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It is a tough choice. Ultimately it is a question of time and resources. Whichever language you do choose, I wish you the best! If you have questions or are looking for resources feel free to ask. :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Liebert_
Liebert_
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I will take a long time to choose a new language to study, and by the way, thank you! I hope you can reach your goals too about languages.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CosmoKaiza
CosmoKaiza
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Ukrainian is way more easier than Russian, but it is still difficult for an english native speaker. But you can learn Ukrainian then Russian.

Fun fact : Ukrainian was selected as the 3rd most beautiful language in 1924 (I think) with French being 1st and Italian 2nd

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Redelll
Redelll
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Correction: it's Persian and not Italian, also it was in 1934 "Ukrainian language took the second place on melodic criteria after Italian and it was ranked as the third most beautiful language in the world on such criteria as phonetics, vocabulary, phraseology and sentence structure after French and Persian at a linguistic contest held in Paris in 1934." Nevertheless, for me Russian is much more beautiful, smoother and more melodic than Ukrainian.

2 years ago