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Phonemic transcriptions for Danish words?

So I've been trying to write down each word as I learn it with IPA, so that I can revise wherever I am, and make sure that I am pronouncing everything right. Here's the problem: What I hear doesn't match what I read. Here's what I'm using as reference:

I compare the pronunciation, but no matter the slight differences each source gives, none of them match the phonetic transcription I get for that word. For example, let's look at the word kvinde. IPA on both sources insists it is /k v e n ə/, and there is just no way in hell that is correct. The "i" in kvinde is NOT pronounced as the IPA "e" (as seen in "met"). It would be more like /k v ɪ n ə/ with "ɪ" (as seen in "hit"). This is not the only word or the only letter I've found wrong, it's the case for the vast majority (nearly all) the words I've looked at.

Are my sources wrong/ unreliable? Which sites should I use? Has any of you done anything like this? What am I doing wrong? Please, help!

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/100percentnick
100percentnick
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I have this exact same problem. Even more frustrating is that many Danish dictionaries and learning materials use their own phonemic script called Dania.

https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dania (the link is to a page in Danish)

I am familiar with IPA, and when my Danish teacher tries to explain things by writing in his phonetic system it confuses me even more!

Anyway, enough ranting. Good luck with your Danish learning everybody!

2 years ago

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I agree, it would be nice to see some explanation of the Danes' bizarre pronunciation somewhere (if such a thing is possible). I haven't seen anything so far in the tips and notes (granted, I'm not very far down the tree yet, so maybe there's something); I have attempted to look it up, but it appears to be a minefield. And I still don't really understand how to make the soft d sound; even the IPA won't help me!

And 'kvinden' sounds more like /kʰviʔə/ to me.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anndariel

I learned the soft d sound with the help of one single video where the guy (a native speaker) explains exactly how your tongue should be positioned in your mouth so that you make the sound. It will start making sense after you watch it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njWi-MA39YE

As for the IPA transcription, the way you wrote it seems even more accurate, and it's even further from what every source on the internet says is correct. I don't know how to find a correct source, if one as such exists.

2 years ago