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- "Нет, это не парк."
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How do we know if it's "No, this is not the park" or "No, this is not a park"?
If it were "the park", there would be a demonstrative pronoun before "park": тот парк.
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Jukka said it right. But there's actually no such pronouns for "the or a" in Russian, so they use "that" instead, if its really neccesary...
Apart from "that/those" (тот/те) we also often use "this/these" (этот/эти).
if its really neccesary
Good point. If it were obvious from the context that it is THE park, I wouldn't use neither "тот", nor "этот". These are pronouns, not articles. In English every noun requires a decision about articles (as a Russian, I suck at this; I hate articles deeply, seriously); pronouns are more optional.
For example, imagine I'm telling a story. I mention that I was reading a book, say something about the book, then something off topic, and then, "Anyway, I was reading the book, and..." (We should use "the" here, correct?) In Russian I would just say: "Так вот, читала я (эту) книгу, и..." It is obvious that I'm talking about THE book that I mentioned before, so "эту" is not necessary here. Does it make sense?
In English plural nouns do not always take an article. Do you like swans? I saw tigers at the zoo. etc
I wrote "No, this is no park.", which is accurate, but not registered as correct. :(
But the sentance is нет, это не парк. Нет is no. Не is not. It would literally translate to, no, this is not park, which is because russian doesnt have the word a. So it is no, this is not a park. "No, this is no park" would be нет, это не папк". Plus, we dont really speak like that in English.
Similarly, is "No, this is no park" an accurate translation for "нет, это не парк" or would "No, this is no park" translate to something else more accurately in Russian? (Some English speakers are as likely to say "this is no blank" as they are "this is not a blank" - maybe situational, but especially when telling someone not to do something they might otherwise do elsewhere. For example, I might reprimand a child for playing fetch with the dog inside by saying, "Stop that! This is no park! Go play outside!")
telling someone not to do something they might otherwise do elsewhere
For that we use a personal pronoun (or another word indicating a person: name, etc.) in the dative case: "Это тебе не парк!" If you want to elaborate, you can add the conjunction чтобы + an infinitive construction: "Это тебе не парк, чтобы тут играть с собакой!" In this case the pronoun is not necessary: "Это (тебе) не парк, чтобы тут играть с собакой!"
When do we use genitive after negative words? Why isn't it зтот не парка? Thank you
Always after нет but only if the object is not real after не Park is real - so accusative If it was "No this is not a question" - then it would be genitive . As a question is not a real object. Welcome the weirdness )))) (I just learned this the other day)
Always after нет
It's true.
but only if the object is not real
It's false.
No, this is not a question - Нет, это не вопрос (nominative, not genitive!, comes after the copulative verb, although there is a negative word!)
I do not see a question here - Я не вижу здесь вопроса (gen./part.)
I do not see the question here - Я не вижу здесь (этот) вопрос (acc.) / Я не вижу здесь (этого) вопроса (gen.)
There is not a question here - Здесь нет вопроса (gen.)
There is no question here / there are no questions here - Здесь нет (никаких) вопросов (gen. pl.)
P.S. I'm Russian.
... then it would be genitive . As a question is not a real object
It doesn’t work like that. I don't know where you got it from.
PPS. In Russian there is a concept of partitivism (the partitive case), a bit similar to a such concept in French, but not in all details. So, the partitive in modern Russian is usually expressed through the genitive case.
I always forget about this "a" and "the", not a native speaker of english. It's not such a big deal, and duolingo i matching this as a complete failure, it's annoying...
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Native English speakers using Duolingo insist that non-native speakers who can't use articles perfectly should be penalised, even when the language they're learning isn't English. It's unthinkable to them that Duolingo could accept answers in English that aren't grammatically correct.
Hey guys! Can anyone help me in found out good books of Russian language? I'm from Brazil and here we don't have many books Russian-Portuguese. So, I'm learning through English.
I just love how in sentences like this Russian sounds like a baby kid language :3 (just my perception)
Are giving away the answer or are you responding to this strange dialogue?
Nominative is always used with the copula, even when it's negative.
Парк is the nominative/subjective and accusative/objective/direction case.
Парке is the prepositional/locative case. (О парке - about the park, в парке - in the park).
I am having a problem with this as when I get a question which involves me speaking the answer I get it wrong but when I use google translate and speak Russian I get it right. Any suggestions?
