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Correct me if I am wrong, but does that mean the only thing you have to do to make is prepositional is add the 'e'?
A lot of the time yes, and the good news is that with singular nouns at least, the prepositional is the easiest case to learn (together with the accusative maybe). But not ALL the time. Take a look at this website for a more thorough explanation of when to add "e" and when to add something else: http://www.russianlessons.net/grammar/nouns_prepositional.php. On the left of that page that you can also look up how to form the other cases in the majority of cases. Of course, there are always exceptions. For those, I'd recommend remembering which are the "exception" words and then using: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%81. Go to Russian and then click "Declension", and you'll see all the case forms. (I used "лес" as an example because it has an unusual form in the prepositional.)
Edit: Apologies, that might have been misleading. Whilst "лес" does have an unusual form when used after "в", this should technically be called the "locative" case. You will learn this later in the course, but for now, you will certainly benefit from using the above sites.
Control your spacecraft. When you blasted off in to this lesson the whole point of the lesson pointed was we should focus on the subject of "WHERE" in this lesson. Without that map of information WHERE, then your spaceship doesn't know its goals of this space mission so then to get you more acquainted with the mission goals of steering your spacecraft for correct answers while blasting in to the WHERE universe they give "TIPS" for further clarification of keeping your spacecraft flying steady with thought, and in the TIPS, its summary said prepositional genitive cases would be the fuel you need in your answers and the TIPS you were given were that the "B" and HA as buttons should be used in your thought processes of the data coming from you. Don't fear being an astronaut Major Tom.
Ok, the preposition "в" triggers the prepositional case and there for "парк" becomes "парке" in "в парке". But one of the first tasks on "Duolingo" was to translate "Мой багаж в такси" and "Дзенни в метро". Are both "такси" & "метро" in the propositional case? If so, what words is used in the nominative case?
Yes, "такси" and "метро" are (in theory) in the prepositional case. However, because they are loan words from other languages, they do not decline in the same way as other nouns. (That is, they are indeclinable). Thus "такси" and "метро" are the same in all cases. You can find more information here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B8; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE#Noun_2.
No problem. Just so you know, the preposition "в" doesn't trigger the prepositional case as such. Instead, "в" followed by the prepositional has the specific meaning of "in" (meaning within or inside the confines of a space). If "в" is followed by the accusative then in general this has the meaning of movement in "to" the given space. Я иду в парк, for example, translates as "I'm going (on foot) to the park".
Please note, however, that whilst I am pretty sure what I just said is correct, I am not a native speaker of Russian, and I'm quite willing to stand corrected! Perhaps, if no one corrects me directly, keep an eye out for my theory in action as you move through the levels :-)
Maybe it's just complicated for me. :-)
I generally come up with either something like h or something like k. I suppose the h would be closer? I wouldn't say that's the whole point of learning the pronunciation. You also learn it so that other people can have a clue what on earth you were just saying. :-)
I know I don't have to be perfect, but unfortunately (in this case), I'm rather a perfectionist. :-) I'm working on it, though, and one of these days I will get it right.
Well, I am sure you can pronounce "hue", do you? Actually, even the "y" in "yacht" gives you an idea of the smooth motion you do. Just the place is somewhat different and the shape of the tongue not the same.
хлебом is a form of хлеб. Each noun that isn't indeclinable (some loanwords just do not fit the patterns) has them. Хлебом is the Instrumental singular (other examples include молоком and even днём, ночью, вечером, утром, зимой, летом, осенью and весной—a number of time expressions come from Instrumental forms of corresponding nouns).
It isn't, though, probably, if you listen to химия, it won't be as jarring. Try moving your tongue a bit, using the middle part of your tongue in different ways. It is not like this sound is complicated, and maybe you even did it in your life. You simply never used exactly that position in a language.
You don't need to be perfect anyway. Just make it feel comfortable enough, so that words like хлеб, охрана and мягкий (actually, /мяхкий/ is the recommended pronounciation) do not cause too much trouble. Maybe this is the whole point of learning the correct pronunciation: if you get close, pronouncing different vowel and consonant combinations becomes easier than when you use sounds that are way off.
Хорошо does sound much more like an English h, but compare hope with успех. The х is clearly a different sound.
@kavadera, @A_User
You gotta be kidding me! Please listen to words "Hope" and "Хорошо" and say where is the difference?
It's just ridiculous, because there is no difference. I've been living abroad for several years when I was little. I have never had problems communicating in English. Now I live in Russia and still have calls with foreign colleagues in English. Based on my 15 years of practising English I can say that even if there is some difference between "h" sound in "hope" and sound for Russian "х", it's SOOOOOOOOO vague and SOOOOOOOOOO insignificant, that you may ignore it and everybody will understand you clearly.
And one more point: letter "х" in Russian language is always pronounced the same. There is no difference between "успех" and "хорошо" concerning "х" pronounciation.
I don't want to argue anymore. If you don't believe me, it's you choice.
"На" is used with some events. For example a concert, a party, a meeting, etc.
"В" is used with some areas. For example a park, a village, a city, etc.
However there are some not very logical combinations. For example:
- "В отпуске" - on a holiday
- "На море" - on a seaside
- "В беде" - in trouble
- "На курорте" - in a resort
I'm not trying to frighten you, but bare in mind that preposition is one of the most difficult part of any foreign language. Don't try to find the 100% logic, you will get used to these exclusions one day, just keep practising. Actually, trying different prepositions is not always wrong, it may just vary the meaning. For example:
- "В море" - in the sea
- "На деревне" - in the whole village (for example "Первый парень на деревне" translates "the best guy in the whole village", quite a common saying meaning a handsome man)
Произношение в задании: "Мамы и папы в парке" - естественно выдаёт ошибку на ответ. Но звучит именно так! И что интересно, здесь, в обсуждении озвучка уже вставлена правильная: "Мама и папа в парке". Исправить бы надо аудио в задании, зачем людей вводить в заблуждение.