https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keaaww

Only "Body" left before Gen. Plural

God help me. Gen. Plural is labeled with a skull image, how appropriate.

November 25, 2015

22 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alex_tv80

The word "мечта" (dream) does not have Gen. Plural at all ))) When I was young and went to schooI I asked my Russian teacher what is the Gen. Plural of this word. She said that this form does not exist and I should say "мечтаний" instead (but "мечтанье" is a separate word) )))

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olimo

Вы еще кочергу вспомните))

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alex_tv80

Кочерёг )))

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olimo

У рыб нет зуб... у рыбов нет зубов... у рыбьев нет зубьев... У РЫБЫ ЕСТЬ ЗУБЫ!!

(The proper Russian for "Fish don't have teeth" is "У рыб нет зубов". But of course they do have teeth :-))

Good luck with Genitive Plural! I guess the best way to learn that is to make a table of all the nouns you know by now, and look for their Genitive Plural forms. You'll find some patterns, so it won't be memorizing totally different stuff for every noun. We Russians do the same with the English irregular verbs, by the way :-) Make tables and drill them.

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alex_tv80

У рыбей нет зубей.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/flootzavut

DON'T PANIC!!!

Seriously, though, don't panic, just read the explanations, do the exercises and give yourself a break if not everything clicks first time round. You will be okay, it isn't impossible!

Ps I always kind of liked gen. plural - I know, I'm weird. I just like things that are a bit different. I like especially how for feminine plurals you lose a sound for the plural, which blew my brain (in a good way) the first time I learned it!

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cherub721

There are only 5 lessons in the skill, so it can't be that hard... right? Right?!?

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keaaww

Yeah I already started and it's fine. It's not really a thorough drilling in all the obscure exceptional situations. Mostly I was just trying to be funny. Genitive plural is though the absolute monster of the Russian noun case system.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AaronTupaz

It's not that bad. Until I came across that skill and read the notes, I thought there were no rules for it. I've just been memorizing them for months.

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheHockeyist

Yep. The genitive plural is hell. Why did you do this, native Russians?

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mosfet07

We are sorry. We didn't mean to.

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keaaww

Your avatar would also make an excellent one for genitive plural!

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mosfet07

}:‑)

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheHockeyist

Genitive Plural: let's throw ов's and ей's everywhere! Just to annoy the foreigners!

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheHockeyist

It's okay.

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keaaww

In one of my many Russian grammar books, most cases are described nicely on a page or two. The genitive plural has a giant fold-out centerfold-like poster with exception after exception listed. AAARGH!

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mosfet07

Did you meet Russian verb prefixes already?

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheHockeyist

:-(. At least the singular is easy. Masculine and neuter is а/я, and feminine is ы/и.

November 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Theron126

Of course. It's got to explain the rules, and the exceptions to the rules, and the rules for exceptions to the rules, and the exceptions to the rules for exceptions to the rules...

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RoseDG1

Which book? :)

December 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keaaww

"A Short Russian Reference Grammar" by I.M. Pulkina. Here's a picture of the centerfold: http://s29.postimg.org/8i67v3odz/photo_5.jpg. Looking through it again, this is an awesome book! There is a great table that shows prepositions and all the cases they govern with examples, e.g., "за", both accusative and instrumental, answering куда (accusative) vs. где (instrumental), purpose (instrumental, following verbs of motion).

December 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RoseDG1

Thanks! Ordering it from Amazon! :)

December 7, 2015
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