https://www.duolingo.com/Eng2RusLearner

Are my concerns addressed later in the Russian courses?

So, I'm doing the Russian tree right now and I can't help but keep finding things that I've not actually learned in my practices.

Now, I am picking up on some patterns, but others are still completely foreign to me. I'm currently in the Verbs in the Present section, and I don't know why видеть (to see) becomes вижу. I understand why the word ends in у, but I don't understand why д is changed to ж.

Has this been taught by this part of the course? Did I miss something?

Will these rules be reinforced in greater detail further into the courses?

Thanks. I'm loving the courses and am learning a lot, but I can't seem to get past these questions that keep arising in my head. It's hard to find motivation to keep going when I keep finding things that I never learned, and am not sure if they're reinforced and taught in more detail later. Thanks; again!

November 26, 2015

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc

Done. A small section on consonant mutation in Е- and И-conjugation has been added in the TipsNotes to our Verbs 2 skill. Please note that you do not have to memorize this. The truth of the matter is, there is some structure to what happens with the verbs in Russian, however, most classification work is better left for the time when you have some background. Until you know at least 15-20 different verbs, some of them might seem to defy any classification.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger

Thanks. Now that's service! as we used to say. It would seem to be just what Eng2RusLearner is looking for. (Would it be worth mentioning that the discussion has returned to verbs, or is mentioning the infinitive and personal forms enough?--I know, picky, picky.) Anyway, cool!

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc

I like my Tips relatively short. Maybe 300 words if I can squeeze all the essential information inside that volume. Mutation is not really worth discussing when you have only one or two verbs with mutations to begin with.

If you go really deep into how verbs work in Russian, there are 5 productive classes (verbs like чита́ть, име́ть, рисова́ть, пры́гнуть, люби́ть), as well as over 10 non-productive (the exact number depends on how you classify them). However, THIS is really, really only worth it if you learnt, like, 100 verbs and finally feel the need to step back and pack up the knowledge you have in a more rational way.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

По-моему, the grammar notes are pretty good and well structured/presented, that said:

1) Duolingo is not a complete language learning solution, I'm not sure it's even meant to be.
2) Duolingo was designed around the principle of learning through doing - even having tips and notes was a concession from Duolingo after many requests, I believe.

There are consistent patterns. You can look them up or you can trust your brain to spot and assimilate them or a little of both. Either way, they will become second nature as time goes on :)

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger

If you don't find an explanation in the Notes and Tips for some seeming anomaly, the thing to do would be to a) look around elsewhere for explanations of Russian grammar, b) ask here, or c) just figure it is what seems to be a slight irregularity (although it may be predictable) and memorize it. Often languages develop unpredictably, and that's just the way it is.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/2E3S

If every thing will be described then duolingo courses will become those superboring scholar lessons with tables tables tables everywhere. Duolingo is about learning by practice as much as possible without real talking. Missing details are in comments (they will be in time in this new course), now just remember them and your brain will notice the logic in them in time.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/iamduygu

I agree with others, I think it's too much to expect everything from Duolingo. I also started having difficulty understanding as I progressed on my tree and what I've been doing recently to overcome this problem is that when I start a skill, I first look it up in my grammar books or on the internet, and then proceed with Duolingo.

I have a notebook where I opened up different sections (cases, verbs and conjugations, nouns, adjectives, prepositions etc.) and let's say I will start the "Genitive 1" skill, I first take grammar notes on my notebook's "cases" section, and then do the skill on Duolingo. I feel like I'm able to grasp things covered on Duolingo more easily this way.

November 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/TheHockeyist

Yeah, вижу is a weird form for me as well. It's consonant mutation. http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/palatal.html

November 26, 2015
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