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"шесть собак и две кошки"

Translation:six dogs and two cats

November 30, 2015



Why wasn't кошек used here?


Numbers ending in 2, 3, and 4 (Excluding 12/13/14) take the genitive singular.


It is the myriads of exclusions that I find frustrating at the moment... Nevermind, I will hopefully "get there" eventually with patience...


I wouldn't really consider 12, 13, and 14 to be exclusions since, as the "Tips and notes" (https://www.duolingo.com/skill/ru/Time-and-Numbers) point out, they are numbers larger than four and therefore take the genitive plural.


Yeah, but 22 follows the 2 and 23 follows the three etc. so are 42, 53, 64 etc.., right? But 12, 13 and 14 follows the 'larger than four' rule...

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    Look at how they are formed in Russian:

    • 22 is два́дцать две́ [feminine] or два́дцать два [masculine or neuter] (therefore, it uses the noun form for две/два),
    • 23 is два́дцать три (therefore, it uses the noun form for три),
    • 42 is два́дцать два/две,
    • 53 is пятьдеся́т три,
    • 64 is шестьдеся́т четы́ре.

    At the same time, numbers from 11 to 19 are formed differently (the pattern was like 'one-on-ten', 'two-on-ten'):

    • двена́дцать ends in -дцать, which is a contracted form of десять and therefore you use the noun form for десять,
    • трина́дцать ends in -дцать,
    • четы́рнадцать ends in -дцать.

    The way these numbers are formed is really an exception (for ten, you use 'one-on-ten' pattern; for other tens, you use 'twenty one' pattern), but the noun form choice doesn't seem too illogical to me.


    It's exactly the same as in English so it's not hard to remember. Eleven, twelve and thirteen are not formed ending with the words one, two, three (like every other number ending with those numerals are).


    Why not "шесть собаки"?


    I believe someone has answered a question similar to yours above. 2,3,4 take genitive singular (собаки); while 5-20 take genitive plural (собак). And 21 takes nominative singular, 22-24 in genitive singular, 25-30, in genitive plural and so on.


    Good question! I have no idea either...


    Why is и pronounced ы?

    [deactivated user]

      Because it follows the hard consonant (and is not separated by a pause). «И» cannot be pronounced after a hard consonant, so when it follows a hard consonant, it becomes ы.

      When you add a prefix to a word beginning with И, it becomes Ы: без 'without' + изве́стный 'famous' = безызве́стный 'obscure'.

      However, when it's written as a separate word, we don't change the spelling. However, if separate words are pronounced without a pause, we still pronounce [ы]: без 'without' + изве́стий 'news' = без [ы]зве́стий 'without news'.


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      Can someone explain why we're using собак instead of собаки? Same goes for the difference between кошек and кошки. Thanks!


      Because the endings of the words "шесть" and "собак" have consonats - "т" and "к". The same thing with the "две кошки" where endings have vowels - "е" and "и". Шесть кошек. - Here is again the consonant trick.


      Alexa play файго мечты by шесть собак

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